Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 446-003
Date: Thursday, June 14, 1973 at 3:58 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/446-003

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[0:00] Oh, yeah.
[0:06] I was receiving diplomatic credentials, so I couldn't turn to call.
[0:14] Oh, yeah.
[0:17] What's up?
[0:17] No, I'm perfectly all right.
[1:11] Yeah.
[1:14] Yeah, we stay out of that, don't we?
[1:43] Well, he did reach me, and he wanted to come in and see me.
[2:07] I told him I couldn't do it tomorrow.
[2:08] It was April, and I'd clocked for a sleep.
[2:09] And as a matter of fact, it was in terms of time, because back there I was going to be heading to California right after the Depression.
[2:12] I was there one week, and I got two months.
[2:14] Right.
[2:18] How does that sound to you?
[2:28] Yeah.
[2:28] I mean, there's no, if there's not, no.
[2:37] No, that's not crap.
[2:37] But what I meant is that time is not of the essence here.
[2:38] The main thing is that I'll get to him and I'll talk to him.
[2:39] I mean, I think it's the best thing that I can do.
[2:40] Come on.
[2:41] You may want to do it with me at all.
[2:41] That's the case I'll do.
[2:42] I hope he is as dumb as I can be.
[2:43] What we have in mind is that you've got to write up the wiring stuff.
[3:06] I don't know how anybody writes that up.
[3:06] That's another story.
[3:07] It can be written up by 18 or 19 other people.
[3:08] But we want it for the first four years, which is far more important than trying to rush it, you know.
[3:10] So he said an enormous amount of great material there, right?
[3:14] get going on right now.
[3:21] Right.
[3:21] Right.
[3:21] Right.
[3:21] Well, I got the picture.
[3:24] Sure.
[3:25] Sure.
[3:25] Well, he had gotten me these calls before.
[3:26] As a matter of fact, I talked to him about ten minutes ago.
[3:28] He took your license.
[3:29] Somebody said he just called, so I called him back.
[3:38] So, where are you?
[3:38] I'll...
[3:45] Well, let me, well, something's got to work out, because that fire, somebody's got to go through that stuff, and I'm not going to do it.
[4:04] I'm not going to do it.
[4:05] It's too much work.
[4:05] It's too much work.
[4:06] And also, also, John can do it.
[4:06] He's got an enormous amount of material.
[4:09] He would take the fire and take it, but it's like that.
[4:12] It's a fascinating material.
[4:12] I wish we had a
[4:15] another more sophisticated publisher.
[4:40] They're all on the left.
[4:40] On the right.
[4:40] Somebody's on the right.
[4:41] Well, let's give some thought to it and look over the publisher.
[4:59] The, uh, what's the, I apologize, what's the, is Bruder up today or is he back?
[5:32] I wonder if he's doing this for purposes of getting his rap reduced, is that what it is?
[5:45] Why does he have to remember that?
[5:47] Remember we were sitting here that day in the office and he brought over that thing and he said he wasn't thinking about a jeweler.
[5:53] He hasn't yet.
[6:19] We all have a little bit to be thankful for.
[6:44] I didn't meet any of these people, fortunately, except for Brother Dean.
[6:45] It's a good thing.
[6:46] But you never know what they would have said to me.
[6:47] Also, you never know what they would say, even though, yeah.
[6:48] Are they pushing him on what he told me?
[7:03] It really gets stronger.
[7:29] What kind of life?
[7:29] Yeah, I think it's stronger than that.
[7:30] I think it's stronger than that.
[7:31] Do you want to say anything?
[7:31] Well, once, three years ago, I was in the Democratic Party.
[7:33] I mean, it's a card.
[7:40] I suppose you might have to throw something else.
[7:46] But nevertheless, let's consider her a benality.
[7:59] But we're not stupid.
[7:59] But she doesn't make it.
[8:00] But what about me?
[8:00] She does.
[8:00] She doesn't like me.
[8:02] How does he get him in?
[8:14] Does he get him in?
[8:15] Hold on a second.
[8:15] Covering the beans there.
[8:16] Earlier on, was he getting in?
[8:29] Is anybody on the committee, uh, asking about, uh, Dr. Manson's, uh, reasons for wanting him to serve?
[8:54] Or is he?
[8:54] Or is he?
[8:54] Oh, I see.
[8:54] Does he tell about how Dean and, Dean and Mitchell Manson, they agreed as to how he was to touch my, um, subordination version?
[8:57] Yes.
[9:14] All in all, I think that's fine.
[9:37] I, uh, well, I, uh, I know we've got some tough economics on it.
[9:39] I think that, uh, well, if the Congress is not ready to send in a 98 or a 300, then I think they're right.
[9:41] Uh,
[9:42] What do you think will get you back, Jackass?
[10:07] End of the line.
[10:09] You don't have to worry about it.
[11:04] They told me Stanley did very well.
[11:31] They said he just laid it out there.
[11:32] I heard that and it really shook me.
[11:33] And then Gurney stood up and he said, is he pompous?
[11:37] Well, I'll tell you, it's just, I'm sure it's your little pet, but again, it's going to, I honestly feel it's going to come out, you know.
[12:04] But, you know, I feel that we've just very effectively started to make some significant moves now.
[12:06] That's good, isn't it?
[12:06] That's good.
[12:07] Okay, thank you, and I'll talk to you for at least 10 days.
[12:17] Probably 10 days.