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If?

If it wasn't for quid pro quo.

The prosecutors never believed in anything on you.

How do you know that?

They told me something.

He doesn't.

I've talked to him.

You might have.

You know.

He might have made something up.

But what do they say?

They say he just has never come up with anything.

I can't locate the president.

And they think that Dean was really a key figure in the whole operation.

And they want to get the key figures and put them behind bars.

It's a natural prosecutor incident.

They're convinced of it.

You see, my statement, one that Dean could say, my statement, when I said no major figure should be granted immunity, that broke Dean right off the wall.

Yes.

And, uh, because, uh... And he knew you were aiming at him because he was the one in the meeting saying that you, uh, get immunity before anybody went to the friendship.

Yep.

And also because he knew, uh... And it was after that statement, the 72nd meeting, you just came through the same thing.

Yep.

And also he knew that Paul was looking at me.

I heard him looking at me.

Well, I think he was reflecting the fact that you had, when he had talked to him about resigning,

And he told him there wasn't evidence.

He was in a different category than all of them.

There wasn't evidence against him.

At that point, he had already pledged for immunity.

Yeah, but I didn't know.

And he hadn't told me that he pledged for immunity.

He hadn't told you?

He hadn't told me.

No.

And neither did the prosecutors.

They were very easy on him all the time.

They were just tough on him all the time.

They didn't give up on Dean and immunity.

They didn't give up on Dean and immunity until the 27th.

Right before my 30th broadcast, I remember real well.

What he had argued in all the meetings with you was all dirty.

More?

More.

I don't know about more.

I don't think more was in those meetings.

Where he supposedly made it all up.

He could go out and make a statement that he could get immunity.

I think once he had

Talk about the 68th button.

Oh, I have the 68th button.

I come to it so often.

I'm trying to get that story out.

You know, I'm so sorry you're so strong.

I understand.

I wanted to

I want Strawn to tell the truth.

I just cannot believe that Gordon Strawn... Bert, I don't believe Gordon Strawn told the truth.

And why the hell would you know?

Do you think that he knew that he was on the board when he left here?

Up until now, there has never been any indication.

Except that he had the truth.

As long as he never told the truth.

See, he said Strawn involved.

I had that in mind.

I said, it's possible, possibly was involved.

Because you know, he kept telling us nobody in the White House was involved.

I said, well, no.

And I kept going over this list of what I thought, and putting it over my notes.

Two occasions I asked.

First time they said Trump was involved in that, because that's all.

Well, even on the 21st.

He said Trump possibly was involved.

Even on the 21st, he said nobody had done anything legally wrong in the White House, in reference to the White House, because

What he might be able to say.

Did he say that?

Yes.

Just Bob knows.

Yes.

Not mine.

Bob knows.

But he might be a bad parent.

That's what I'm trying to say.

Then he got into the cover-up problem.

350.

Bob might have to follow through to 350.

And Erickson.

Erickson already is incompetent.

But you see, again, Dean in the 21st, if you look back over that, didn't admit a damn thing that implicated Dean.

Do you know this?

Did he possibly have an accident?

I mean, did he possibly have a problem with himself?

It was all over like a blanket.

Which I should have triggered it.

It was all over like a blanket.

But what I thought about it is that, well, sure, he was preparing the witnesses, etc.

But why shouldn't he?

I was thinking he was being a lawyer.

I don't know.

Anyway, let's not get ourselves obsessed with it.

We'll get back to it.

I think he's still willing to try.

Please.

I think even the agents wouldn't cooperate and cause this animation.

For some reason, he hasn't fallen in contact with us.

Okay.

In the last two days.

Okay.

Now, this is music to my ear.

I still can't stand that.

I'm not sure what's up.

I don't have a clue.

We're burdened and tempted to discredit him.

We're going to.

Do you think it's possible that Daesh, now the guy to get, the only guy to talk to Daesh is our friend Lance.

They're, you know, they are our friends.

They're the servants that come out of the Jewish community.

And I don't mean they're all that way, but generally speaking, they are, they're sovereign souls.

You know what I mean?

Chip Carrow, all of them.

Bittman.

A lot of people think he's Jewish and he doesn't think he is, which is fine.

I don't know and I don't care.

But I do, when I make the Jewish comment, it just happens to be true hell.

We all tend to go with our own will.

Some of us go, some of us don't.

You are concerned that there are no senators who are stepping up to the federal president?

It concerns me from a number of points.

In the first place, I think it would have helped.

In the second place, I feel confident.

It's certainly the Republicans.

The Republicans that ought to be stepping up.

Now, where is

Where are they?

Well, possibly, Ron, possibly you could talk to Harlow about that.

Oh, absolutely.

You could have them somehow.

It's obvious that the Demons can't deliver.

They're in a different view, but they can just say for the crowd, I don't know, what is it, you know.

I think they believe they're an Amazon.

I think their attitude according to...

Gurney, Gurney is really coming on.

Yes, he is.

He's been out on the floor.

Oh, yeah.

He's speaking to people.

What is he saying?

He's crawling on earth and dying.

What are you saying about defending the president?

Gurney is saying really what we're saying.

He said more people should be speaking out for the president.

He said the president was here.

Gurney is.

Well, we got him.

I don't want them to get out in any way.

You understand?

Because if there's something that's been done or something, I don't know what it is.

Somebody's just not, wasn't, I didn't know.

Somebody else did.

All the presences.

I don't want somebody to get hurt because I haven't survived it, but they might not.

You understand?

Because I haven't survived the damn thing.

They've got a memorandum proving that I paid the money.

You understand that?

I have early intentions.

And it wouldn't have been any good.

You see, the whole thing of my examination of demons and the birds and all of it, apparently, where I went through with it, all right, you can get that.

It would have cost me a hell of a lot, but you could get it.

How would you deliver?

No way.

And the plasma analysis, what good is it going to do?

Because these guys aren't going to stay in it for like four years.

They want clemency.

Aren't they going to want clemency?

Yeah.

And we can't give clemency.

Couldn't even consider it for two years.

Right?

Now what the hell?

How can you make a case for the cover-up?

I think that's why Mitchell quit make raising money, because you're making so much money.

They must do this.

Mitchell probably scoffed and didn't have it.

Unfortunately, he didn't.

He didn't sort of think, where do you go from here?

What does that tell you?

It motivated him to lawyer as good as Mitchum.

at the time that Dick Moore discussed the fact that he needed money and all that sort of thing.

Not for them to say, let's sit down, fellas, and say, not just what he wanted to say, he was privileged.

Do you think he thought all these guys were going to stay shut and go into that jail and wait four years?

Not only wait four years, 30 years?

Six years, six years.

Does he think that?

Of course they aren't going to.

Remember that time, the night of the quirk, the time of the quirk, when you said the E. Howard hunt was, or was it later, the night of the recent E. Howard hunt was going to break, or something like that?

I don't remember.

I don't know if you said it was going to break or not, but it was a quirk.

I suspect it was a quirk.

I don't know.

Well, I'm under emotional stress.

I think the main point of this being made, trying to make this, with regard to the discussion of the 21st, because there is real distress to my heart, and I understand it.

But hold and demolish it.

We cannot wait that long or hold it to do it.

Right?

But the key is, it's necessary.

We can't

Henry Peterson, the issue of state.

Did you call him?

You told him about it.

He looked at Blackburn.

I did.

And we'll just get Henry to say, well, he told the president.

The president came to his front and told me as prosecutor that that's what happened.

You know, and where does this lead?

And it was not.

Have you ever checked to see whether they got that money or not?

We have been unable to find out when the last money was paid.

But they didn't get any additional money that we could find, any placement.

After the 23rd?

After the 23rd.

They didn't get any additional money after about January.

How do you get that $1,500?

Here, John Dean will go ahead and say, I told the president he got his $20,000.

The president said, how am I going to pay for the $300 million?

And when he said that, the president said, go ahead and raise it.

That's what he did.

It's a lie.

That's the question that Fred Floyd is going to wrestle with, be ready for.

As soon as that thing's cracked, it's going to be knocked right out of the box.

I think we have two things that we need to do.

We have to, if it comes out that that's all we're studying, we have to deny it.

And they did do it, and they did it.

The other difficulty is I didn't report it until the 15th.

Oh, no.

The other difficulty is I didn't report it until the 15th.

his chair.

Now why did he come up out of his chair?

He didn't come up out of his chair to stretch.

He came up out of his chair as he was thinking.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They came up out of his chair.

And when I explained it all to her, she said, well, we better get the money.

See, this is where I see every son of a bitch.

It's a lie by a man trying to

Oh, he's not trying to get him in here, he's trying to let him in the setting he wants.

That's all, we're all in trouble.

It's gonna be that.

Gordon Strong, God damn, I hope he doesn't let us down.

When I say let us down, I don't think it's true that Bob Holt is out of any cover and what he's getting into.

I would be wrong.

It's true.

They did call.

They did the so-called activating of Kanban.

It occurred.

He was called back here to Washington for a meeting with Tristan.

I know Kanban was called back here because early on, early on, there was a home selling an elephant.

Early on, he said, we need this money.

That's all right at that point, isn't it?

You know, you've got to have him to come about this being a pretty damn clean guy, too, and a decent guy to deal with my rule of my mind.

I saw him in July, and he's never finished.

It was very easy for him to say, you know, you know, Kevin and John are always going to ask about the money every once in a while.

Thank God.

And he had.

And his father said, okay.

Because that was early.

So the context of that moment.

What?

The context of that time.

I was thinking of a cover-up then.

Hell no.

The money was being used to...

Tony's with a few of his families at this time.

Yeah?

Oh, pretty good.

Well, it's just one of them on paper will finish this time, and I believe they're going to finish in probably two or three weeks with the main group.

If they do, they need the television coverage.

If you think they'll get it right through the three weeks,

I think they would get, when they finish with Bob and John, they do not want it.

Oh yes, Bob and John, when they're through, when they hear it, they're over it.

Nobody wants to be damned by anybody else.

Will Mitchell testify?

He has said he will not.

So does Trump, so does, so does Stanton, but he did.

Well, Stan has never really said hard words.

Now, how can that be a human test?

They can test a man.

Well, can we have him here?

We have him up here.

They've already not blamed him up here.

What?

They've already not forced him to up here.

Oh.

Well, they've brought him to this original place.

That's very smart of them.

It's very original and terrible.

Yeah.

I'm very nervous inside.

God, darn it Fred, wouldn't you love to be in a public camera?

I sure would.

I'd love to be in a public picture.

I'd love to get a picture of what I know now and eat him alive.

How will you prepare these questions?

Are you just going to give them a long list or something like that?

We're going to take them by subject matter.

Yeah.

One, we're going to take what we call a time trip.

Because I remember when I prepared, when I prepared in his case, I think those were in those papers that...

I worked a million dollar deduction on them.

Boy, it's a great story.

Boy, I worked days.

I never had any criminal law practices.

I did wills and spades and divorces and all that crappy stuff.

And I never got a case for a jury.

Never.

But, I had my sisters.

I had members of the will.

I spent hours on that person.

But like I never read the brief, boy, I was ready.

Thing was, I knew more about the case than I understood.

He was a smart son of a bitch.

A very smart son of a bitch.

And in fact, he destroyed it.

Destroyed it.

And one day, I'll tell you this.

Some day, go back and read that.

Read the testimony.

It's in the Chambers Book of Witnesses.

It's the best that I've read.

I've read that portion.

And a couple of guys, they wanted to die or kill themselves.

No, no.

They wanted to hesitate.

A couple of guys tried to, took a slap in the face.

Let me say one thing.

Chamberlain told me to.

No, yeah, and that's what we have to do.

In fact, he said, you know, William and Chambers is dead, so I'm going to speak for him.

He's too far out of the level, and he does have a place to return to.

Incidentally, I think you might start to call me a confessed criminal.

And I think we could, but I don't know if our friends up there will.

That's what I'm thinking.

I know.

But I hang up on them.

That statement has got to be made, though.

I think they confessed criminal.

And liar.

God damn, he lied to us for ten months, Fred.

No question about that.

You know, remember even, as I told you in my notes...

As late as the 19th or the 20th, I don't know what the morning is, where I said, now again, when he said I had with each of these guys that got a problem and all that, I said, now John, what about the life?

He said, there is not a scintillant of evidence.

Everybody can call him on the 9th or the 20th.

Not a scintillant of evidence.

I'm down.

And he told me that what the hell was I to believe?

Particularly this place and all that stuff.

What we're going to do as a practice, what we're doing as a practice, we're taking a different practice.

One of these is the time of place.

We're checking the time of us also early this year.

And we're going to march through the pre-watergate stuff and all of what's happening.

And then we'll detail and we'll say we're working closely

How many times did you see Mr. Peterson?

How many times did you talk to the press office?

How many times did you see the president?

Did you tell him?

Now his defense is going to be in Detroit.

That's all right.

When I say it isn't all right, I mean, Ervin will handle it.

But the funny part was he didn't tell Peter.

He didn't tell Peter.

The two of them were talking all the time.

And he didn't tell me.

His defense, that he told Ervin, stands up only as against me.

It doesn't cover the others because Ervin wasn't talking to Gray.

Ervin wasn't talking to Peter.

He told everything and nothing got out in June.

And what was he doing in July?

Okay, and then he told everything.

And nothing happened.

Yeah, that's why.

And he told everything.

If nothing happened, why didn't he tell Peterson, the director of the FBI, on down the line, that he had told Irving, and nothing was happening?

Why didn't he tell all of these people that Irving knows what's going on here?

You know, you can cut that down.

Did Peterson tell you, did he have the recollection of our conversation where he said that there were times I thought I should have knocked on your door?

Did he tell you why?

No.

Why was he suspicious?

See my point?

Well, the tactics did.

He did, and he was referring particularly to the time that John Erickson called him and got on his back and made him jury.

About the stand subpoena.

Stand, what?

The stand subpoena.

Well, that one, I don't agree with you.

Well, that was the one.

There was no reason for the stand to be subpoenaed.

That was the one that got me out of there.

He never did suspect John Dean, because he, particularly, because John Dean was always a easy thing.

He liked Dean, didn't he?

He liked Dean.

I liked Dean, too.

And Dean was the easy thing.

I did, too.

I thought he was a...

I thought he was fine, actually, until April 15th.

I didn't know.

I wouldn't have gone out and written an express confidence on behalf of the President of the United States.

Up to the standpoint, if I was totally self-interested, had no other concern about anyone else, I would have been smart enough.

And I had people in the same positions who trusted me.

Right.

But Peterson, another thing Peterson liked about you, it was so easy to turn around.

When he asked Peterson what was going on in the factory, that's great.

Ask the biggest thing that I can just tell the world.

We're talking to X, Y, Z, and Y.

Please, uh...

He said, quick.

That's all he'd ask.

He said, actually, you know, I don't know.

I've heard nothing.

I haven't heard something.

You really squeezed me.

I've been bothering you.

What'd he say?

He said, well, I'm a loser already.

No, I'm not.

I'm a big loser already.

He was revealing everything to him.

He was trying to send Peterson to him.

I think that was the case with Johnson.

Well, great.

I'll give you an idea.

An idea?

All right.

I mean, tell the truth.

I think that was the case with Johnson.

I had two contacts with him on this case.

Only two.

One, a telephone call.

And I said, well, go ahead with the investigation.

He raised it himself.

Second, when he came in, I said, I'm going to nominate you, but I need to know what about this one of you.

He said, I'm proud of what I've done for you.

I said, what the hell is I to believe in?

I didn't grade him, I said.

Second, he was proud of what he did for me.

I didn't pass grade him.

He did a lot for me.

And I think that praise would still be for just standing today and being killed at the same time.

And Burkard would have gotten it.

Burkard would have gotten it.

Oh, yeah, well, if he had Burkard gotten his thing approved, he would have made it.

That killed him.

Forced the Resurrection to find me.

Very early.

And the animals.

Indirectly.

John Irving.

He doesn't know what was in it, does he?

No, but John didn't know what was in that package.

You brought up the field and did know, huh?

President, I'm convinced John Dean didn't know what was in that package.

John Dean, but not John Irving.

Not John Irving.

John Irving was in it.

John Dean had said earlier that he didn't look at that.

He said that.

That he didn't look at those documents.

He didn't know what was out in the Redfields.

He said that here.

He said that too.

Earlier.

He said that to Peterson.

He talked to him.

He said that to Silverman.

He said earlier to the Senate investigators he didn't know what was out there.

Because he didn't look at the Redfields.

He did.

It's just not true.

He only said, yes, I look.

And John Dean looked.

He said, I didn't know what was going on, sir.

And you think it was a fake cable?

That kind of crap?

Yes.

That's what we think.

That's why Dean, Dean then told her that they should never see the light of day.

And that's what Earth is supposed to be fixing.

Correct.

He's got a big story in that.

Dean did have some other doctors.

Not found out.

He got him one of his candidates and uh, the second day he took him off the case.

He had a bottle on his arm and a bottle on his face.

Well, each one of them did have a case with that.

Yup.

He took them out?

He took them out.

Oh, and he could have, he could have, that's what I'm doing.

I'd be worried.

And he took, he never brought them back.

And he took some of them right out of the box.

There's one memorandum we had, and I'm quite sure of that.

Dean was getting political intelligence from some member of the Secret Service that was working with the government campaign.

And he wrote a memorandum that had that man's name in it.

And I believe he sent it over now to the prosecutor and to the Senate committee.

The Secret Service man working with the government?

Right.

Yeah.

If that's in balance, that's his document.

He doesn't have any documents from the President.

Yes, there's no claim of documents from the President.

I know what I do.

It turns out, he hears what the sale of people to the mental hospital company is in that office.

One was about a meeting with Mitchell and Louie very early on.

Another one was at 8pm about a meeting with somebody

if not in this version, they were written this year after, or probably before he started them.

Here's the interesting thing was, he didn't write documents of the meetings he had with me in the 20th version, so we're not to the 26th.

The reason perhaps had to be that the Son of God was not thinking then of

of his future.

He apparently did not start thinking about his own problems until he tried to write the report.

Until he tried to write the report.

He started writing the report.

That's... That is an enlargement.

Huh.

You know, there's a lot of...

There's a lot of enlargement.

Yeah.

I think he was asked to.

Of course.

That's... That's... That's what... That was at the time also...

I called John up and said, John, what the hell are you trying to do here?

I thought it was crazy.

I thought you were trying to do it.

I didn't really care about it.

Oh, yeah.

I thought it was just a thing.

You know, all of this focus on the president.

Because you have to do it.

Yes, that's where it was.

And he didn't even reach home, right?

He said, I don't know where he is.

And I thought, man, here is the show that's telling us.

And that was the last thing I could think about.

Well, I'll tell you, I'm going to live it over again.

I told you that I could have picked it up.

You know?

So, you know, just stop and think.

The way the guy was talking.

Actually, I would have him say this.

I think you don't agree.

Even at that time, I felt it couldn't have stopped because it was wild.

But I felt it wasn't for me.

And I wasn't about to, you know what I mean?

And John Dean turned to me.

But then John Dean said, hey, what I was thinking about, I wasn't thinking about Hall or Irwin or Colton or Dean.

It was very clear to me.

You know, I insisted on them.

The White House insurances, nobody in the White House.

But that's the only statement I ever made.

I never asked about the committee.

You've never once asked about the committee.

Huh?

You've never once asked about anybody in the committee.

No, sir.

Well, that was my great-great-godson.

He's a lawyer.

He was my confederate.

How did McBooter fool people so often right around the clock?

In the name of God, did you hear that, Clinton?

He's handsome and everything, and he's that fool.

Dean, I can remember, once said he passed or something like that.

He did well.

Good work.

Remember, I also said to Dean, he said to me, if he ever starts to look out for everybody else around him, we should have alerted him that he had something on his mind.

But it was all Dean who said so.

Oh, well.

There's going to be more tomorrow.

Dean tomorrow.

Dean's already out there.

Dean's out there.

They won't be on the stand.

Yeah, on the stand.

You're going to get your line tonight.

Huh?

I'm starting to talk to him.

So, so far I think I've got over 1.5 billion dollars.

He has told us that he twice informed the president that he didn't have to worry about the civil case because he got to know the lawyers and they convicted Richard.

Anybody have any recollection of any conversation of that sort?

I'll give you my notes.

I've already remembered a thing like that.

First time it has ever come up.

And his statement to them was apparently that they did in fact get to written.

The only time he did refer to the civil cases was once.

He said, there are a lot of civil cases, 14 million, and I said, that's where I get the damn civil cases sent.

That's the only time I've ever heard the name of Richie in an election.

What he does is make a lot of people laugh.

And that's true.

He's a good man.

Who do you see?

Well, he met him in farming after the 11th, in farming in March.

No, that's not the context of the program.

Well, then he might see up there to be September 15th.

Well, that's the only time he saw any good of them.

All right, fine.

That's only how I saw him.

Now... How long was in the room the entire time?

How long was in the room the entire time?

I never saw anyone have any note on Richie.

Not one of them.

You better check.

I checked.

I checked with my father.

Yeah.

And he said, cut the business.

Cut the business.

Now, this is not out yet.

So I'm saying the original is not good.

There's allegations that they were trying to fix the civil case.

And they were going to get the original.

Others begin to thwart me, they just begin to thwart the point.

Uh, just like some good- Oh, God!

Just skip this track.

I don't think it is.

I don't think it's right.

It'll be Henry's detective team slashing the president.

If you've got a bullet shifting like this, you can imagine he's going to make a whole bunch of mistakes.

I don't know.

Why the hell is this important?

I don't know either.

This is what makes me want to do this.

Reggie, this is for you.

I want to know why you're here.

There's my name.

I thank you for your presence.

I'm Reggie.

I've been waiting for you for a long time.

I remember down in the orders.

I was asking you to read me the choice.

What do you want today, Reggie?

Do you change your mind?

I have to.

Really?

No.

Point B, that it was in the papers of the solid evidence.

Because the lawyer is the guy who's ruling the discussion.

Yeah.

Go ahead, sir.

I'm waiting for the lawyer.

It's totally brilliant.

And he probably did say that to somebody, but he never said it to me.

And he's transferred all of this away from himself.

I'm a servant of the president.

He's transferred it all away from himself.

His lawyers are wanting him transferred to the president.

You don't think, you really think that that is giving him a little bit of delirium, Dean?

Well, he's not going to have to say it.

After he talked to me.

I'm not sure what he's not going to say.

I'll tell you, this is a pattern.

He talked to Guzman, he talked to him, he talked to him.

The lawyers we talked to, are we in association with them?

You know, all of them came back the same.

You know what I'm saying?

The same lawyers.

Well, I wonder if you do that video, say, at the White House here in Florida.

I don't know if that...

It's a little touchy working with that.

I'm not, you know, overruled.

I like to prepare questions at times.

And then see how it goes.

I'd rather that you'd ask the question.

And if that you're willing to ask the question, then I'm not going to go on the same side.

give me a little bit more?

Good.

They don't even have to have the questions.

They can look at these distinct statements.

What he just said, jumping out of the chair, they can look at one point where he said the president was not involved, and then look at other points and say, now, why did you say that then?

Why do you say this now?

You know, they go out and down the line.

He doesn't like the questions about how many times he's used and how many times he's... Good God, it doesn't take any genius to figure that out.

It doesn't.

That's just where he came from.

Well, get you to go back to your work.

Good.

Get back in.

Thanks.

And remember what Henry, the son of a bitch, says.

What do you expect him to do?

Right.

We'll take him home.

Sure.

Well, I was going to ask you how Henry did.

Well, he certainly did a very good job.

Ten people were thinking about John, the son of a bitch.

What he did was point out that he took him to the hospital.

Period.

Yes.

It's tantalizing to put them on the pipes of the road.

I'm wondering, right, just to look at the space.

Except for the ground floor.

We're talking about San Jose.

They were working on that on the way out.

But that's Calvin, aren't we?

He did a very good job.

They did well in the Congress, too.

They did a great job in the Congress, too.

You weren't there.

No, but the force factor, the tendencies of the mid-section, you know, the kind of abbreviations that they use.

Structural focus.

Can we respond?

Power of telling.

I love you talking to me.

But it's been a good day for us.

One of them horrible houses.

One of them that still has roses.

Oh, I put you out there as the next secretary of the process.

The personal secretary.

He's on the phone all the time.

It's kind of discouraging.

I know it all.

I'm always being crap about it.

What?

A leak of some information about the brooders.

And he was prepared to give you the advice and the levels and so forth, suggesting that it might go as far as the Oval Office.

You know, he didn't come close to that.

Bruder, a hundred-year-old peasant, sitting with my brother in the Oval Office today.

Yes, he was.

How?

Huh?

He was born here.

It's because he just said very believably and very straightforwardly about the fact that the president didn't know.

I will take the consequences, he said, for my actions.

Others make mistakes.

And many men, he said, some men deserve the president.

They should take the consequences.

But he said, let me remind you, he's a character.

He's not a job.

No, he's a president.

There were many hundreds of thousands of people who reported the re-election of the president of the United States.

Those who were being charged here, not being charged, those who were guilty of bad judgments should take the consequences.

They should not reflect on the presidency of the United States or any of the other workers here.

The press play that yesterday read this statement.

Under the league, so these are the things that I could do over here.

Under the league, plus the paraphrase statement along that line.

It was a very good job.

What was the league?

The President of the United States, the President of the United States, could not, they had been aware, the story went into the state, which is very important.

The strong thing, this is a totally self-belief-breaking story,

Oh, he's pulling a couple pretty hot guns already.

That damn lockbox.

It's very rough.

We had to catch it.

Oh, maybe not.

Maybe that wasn't all that.

Huh?

Maybe we should have just done it.

Uh...

not come back too strongly to that.

Yep.

And let others do it.

Maybe some of the press will finally get on with it.

They are.

That's what I was going to say.

You know, for a long time.

Yeah.

I understand how you're trying.

But you get the statement that

Well, our economic thing caused a lot of controversy, but I think generally it was favorable.

Yes, sir.

The dollar has to go back up.

And I think the best indication of the strength of the president is the reaction.

Because it broke out along partisan lines, guys who said,

It was a good move.

But it was too late.

That is a straight, flat, partisan statement, and everyone who writes it and everyone who reads it knows it.

The main thing is they said it was a good move.

And the main thing is it was a good move.

It came across my head.

I wasn't really in confidence about it.

So the reaction is mixed enough for one of you to do the bold statement.

And there's...

Yeah.

On the back of the box.

Five.

In the military base office.

I haven't given you a ring.

I have something you can read personally on that.

Henry.

I have four Henry's.

I have five Henry's in the house.

Did he come out the window?

Sheldon was very disappointed that he was putting energy into the wave.

He can't handle it.

He should do what?

He should do trade.

He should do taxes if he's going to do it.

He should do five hundred dollars.

He's got that.

And he's Secretary of State.

And he should have a very fine, very, very long career.

You're right.

Yeah, yeah.

As a president.

He's my top economic advisor.

That's the market.

I think he was getting tired, too.

When a guy is heavily strained, we caught him.

I don't want to overemphasize that.

It's almost like a little hysteria.

Well, it's just you could tell everything that was the cover on trade, the economy, energy, all of the things that were following on the area were crazy.

Traveling, attending these international conferences and so forth.

I don't think the suggestions have been really strong.

Hello?

Hi, Henry?

You're not in a private meeting, are you?

No.

Oh.

Tell him that I was very grateful for that personal note that I received.

Did you?

Because I don't know how to warm that one.

Here it comes.

And, uh...

But I'm prepared to, I want you to repeat, Jim, when I go in at 11 o'clock and call you on Friday, because, uh, that, uh, this motion is delighted to be with you.

You don't care.

Him and his wife, and if the lingo, if you want them to leave them to that, can all stay in the compound, too.

We will open three, we can open three bedrooms, and we, of course, will have a place for security, actually.

Yeah.

Anything you need to ask me, they tell me they did a great job today.

Down in the Congress.

Great, great, great.

They were, you talked about everything, Europe, Vietnam.

Yeah.

Great.

That's the way to do it.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, Ron, Ron said that.

All right.

I've just got Ron coming in.

Let me talk to him and call you back, can I?

On this line, right?

Are you working on it tonight?

I'm working on it.

Yeah, good.

Good, that's good.

I'm going out.

Okay, fine.

The question he had was the freshman was going to leave for San Antonio on Sunday each month here.

The big agreement is to go through that.

Now, we could do it Friday here, Saturday at 10, I think, or Sunday at 10.

Now, Sunday, of course, the communication can come out, so I think that's the best we can do.

But we've got the other section involved, and that's what we've got to do.

The impression is that the plan will be to switch to the nation's government on Saturday.

It's probably better off to do the no-beer agreement on Friday.

Beer.

Dining room.

East room.

All that sort of thing.

But when we talked about it this morning, what I did not believe in our lives in each chapter.

Now, it seems to me that it would be better to do a jury meeting before we leave here.

Yeah.

Do a jury meeting before we leave here.

And get invited to Congress and all that sort of thing.

Then he would go on the air on Saturday night.

Yeah.

And Sunday he would be in the air.

That's right.

I'm about to get confused.

Yes, sir.

Let's do it here.

In the context of just a minute.

Hello.

The best thing I think about Iran is this.

Uh, he's going to do a speech to the nation Saturday, you know.

Oh.

Oh, he's gonna tape it Saturday, though?

Yeah.

He can tape it anywhere, anytime he wants, that's it.

Well, we'll go for him.

If he wants his tape, uh, we'll let them in the cruise.

Yeah, but if he'd like to do it from here, that's fine.

Fine, fine.

We'll let him take it if he can't take it.

And whatever he wants, we'll suit his convenience.

We may move it, you know, a little away from the mountain house, but we'll understand.

We'll set something up.

Now, the other thing is that it will be run Saturday night.

Sunday night.

When is the communique run then?

All right, but he's got to leave Sunday, though.

Oh, he's coming back to stay with us at the cafe.

See, I'm not coming back with him, though.

Oh, he wants to stay at the cafe for the night.

Great, great.

Fine.

Well, uh, that would open up Saturday, then.

Uh...

In other words, he is not, his speech will not be done Saturday.

He would have Saturday open.

Let's see.

He might have done Saturday in San Clemente or Friday here.

We think the best thing to do, and since it's so big, we ought to have all the major congressional unions do it in the East Room on Friday.

It's such a big event.

And I just think that in Saturday we'll be flying out there and

Huh?

Well, we're flying Friday right after we do this thing.

And we can be talking, and Saturday is a day off, a day for pictures and things.

I don't know how I'll do it.

I'm going to have to remake them.

But then I have to have Ron.

Fine.

Let's have a couple of minor agreements done next.

All right.

Bye.

Yeah.

Right.

That's right.

Right.

Now, the other thing is that this business about briefing the congenital people, I remember I want to do that on this darn thing.

I don't want to do it on all of them, but...

Once we're going to do Saturday, somebody could brief here Friday on it.

There'd be no problem.

Right.

Yeah.

You'll brief Thursday.

Well, no.

Yeah.

But you couldn't brief Friday.

Oh, yeah, Friday before the signing.

Now, the other thing is, we're not going to have a signing on Tuesday.

Those would be that Rogers and Gromeko business.

All right.

Good for Schultz as he needs to live.

Yeah.

I want Schultz to do the briefing on that one then.

Rogers do the briefing on his.

Then you'll come up to bat on Thursday and Friday.

Fair enough.

And you'll read both the Congress and the Press, you know.

You gotta do both.

If you were trying to give the Congress a little thing, they would do much for the Congress.

Really?

Well, you know, the way the analysts and all these damn wharfy things used to do something.

It's coming now.

Great, isn't it?

Yeah, great.

That's the stuff.

All right, I have a good evening.

Give the ambassador my best wishes.

Now, on that, then, we will have the three, if they, if does he want, so that I can, this is a very minor matter, that Zabrino wants.

I think it would be better just to have Zabrino and his wife and, and, uh, fresh at the compound.

And have, and have Gromyko stay, you know, with, with Rodney.

But I don't know.

You see what I mean?

You can see how that would be a little bit better, because Sabrina and I know a little better, and Mrs. Sabrina.

They could translate something.

But I'll do it either way.

Either way.

Yeah.

Or I could put all three in either way.

Fine.

Yeah.

No worries.

Good day.

The speech is Sunday night.

It's got to be around Sunday, tape Thursday at Camp David.

Get the papers and put them in the song.

I don't want them.

Deep in the comma, is there a place you can take the... Oh, I don't care where they are.

I'm going to find out the place where he is there.

That's great.

So he's got to stay at Camp David the night before he's lying on that.

So he's got Camp David up to his ears.

He's got to come there and stay a day before he comes to work.

He and I are going back up there for a couple of days.

It's going to be tough making this a spiritual custom to say to God, I'm not going to do it.

Don't do it.

Spirit of sin for many.

So you don't want to do it.

No, it's out there.

You don't want to do it.

You need the spirit of sin.

I don't have any spirit.

That's right.

They've had spirits before.

Skip it.

No, don't ask.

Well?

He takes the food.

Oh, yeah.

I'm gonna say.

Have you seen the officers?

The czar, interesting, he knows every fact, reports every rumor and everything, but it's good for me to know it.

I'm afraid of this, but damn, whatever comes out now, I just figure it's going to be bad.

We'll have to see.

I'm not going to.

They've got me a 30-minute speech to read out there in Pekin, Illinois.

It's not bad, but the problem is it's outdoors, you know, and these are farmers, for the most part, rather stupid.

I'm not stupid, but they're uninformed people.

I'm just not going to do it.

I've got to give them money.

Give them money for their food.

I'm not going to do it.

My audience in the speeches, it's just, it's a visual contract on how great the Congress is.

The law, the economic policy, there's no whole jerky language.

We don't give a goddamn what's in the speeches, right?

We just do the whole, we pick it out of one line.

Yeah, that's right.

I think you should think that.

Well, I don't mean that in any detail.

I'm just...

I'm just going to say the eucalyptus is strong.

That's what I mean.

The eucalyptus is good.

And doesn't matter.

But you cannot breathe without the rodents.

You can't be confused.

You can't read more than 12 to 15 minutes.

You cannot be confused.

Stay around.

Okay, sir.

On the go.

Yes, sir.

Cut through with the necronomics of about anything other than eukaryotes all over the planet.

3-2.

Well, it's good to remind the country that we're still alive.

Yes, you know.

That's a good thing.

That carries along.

3-2, 3-1, 3-2, 3-1, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-1, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2, 3-2,

and they're trying to save it.

They couldn't by the economic problem.

They disagree with it.

Yeah, they gave it up.

Right.

Would you like me to bring you up to date?

Yeah, where we are.

Grutter's on the date, right?

Grutter's on the date.

He's tearing hell out of us all right now.

Grutter's going kind of wild.

He's swinging it at us.

How much is two?

How about 8%?

It's a scratch.

He must be stretching himself.

He proved to be a facile liar before, so he never showed up.

He never came flying.

How does he gain, Frank?

How does he gain?

I don't know unless he feels the second hand numbers.

Adding people to the list.

Now, we do have one without time, but that's a bad news.

Strong has

Asking for a minute from the committee.

They've apparently agreed to give him the passport.

Charles has been returning to testify to the following news about the whole cover-up.

Uh-oh.

He told me shortly after doing a week of asking for a break.

Father, don't listen.

Uh, I put your divorce on the line.

Do you agree?

As you know, I presume, John, they apparently, apparently, Young turned up with a memorandum, which had all the plans in mind.

The last one, which was to use covert means to get a look at the Old Spurge files.

Doctor's file.

And John had an issue.

You know what?

He had an issue.

You had an issue?

No.

John.

I heard.

I heard John Ehrlich had an issue.

So.

And he only specified John knew anything.

So John.

John's got a will problem.

I'm talking to John Ehrlich.

I'm not sure he had said anything.

But John Ehrlich has a very serious problem with it.

After he had COVID, my wife used to judge me by saying, that's not good.

That would be bad stuff.

That would not break it.

But throughout, he could still say, COVID means, you know, it means evil.

It's like, what happens if there's no others to serve?

What is the feel of the office?

That's not good.

Apparently, COVID also changes a lot of lives.

He has apparently he had a file that didn't have the bottom part on it.

It was the last item on it.

He didn't recall that number.

These are both suppliers from earlier than Google.

It's a file that

The memorandum that Young and Crowe...

I would approve the whole thing.

Young and Crowe prepared it.

Crowe and Young prepared the memorandum and sent it to Irving and Irving signed off on it.

Irving signed off on it.

I was worried about that.

No, but it does give Young a very serious problem.

So it's one...

of this development.

This is not out yet, but in the interview of the starting set, by Dash and Tuff, Dean has told Dash and Tuff that on two occasions he mentions the civil system

and told you that the civil suit would be taken care of because one of the attorneys could fix the judge, Jake Ritchie.

And, of course, this lady came to stay with Overset because he named a lobbyist on top of him by the bottom of the office.

And, of course, Ritchie was... Ritchie?

Ritchie, that's where...

Decent man, for crying out loud.

He told them that I and he told me.

It seems as if he told me that the civil suit didn't fit.

He told you that the civil suit was the... Until after election.

That's the way it sounds like.

Well, after election.

Now, he never saw you but once in that period, and that was on September 15th.

Well, the only man that's got anything on that is Holden.

If you check him, see what the hell he's got.

He's got all of his notes.

All of them.

He's got all of them.

He showed me his notes on that.

And it was totally, it was about a number of items, about what various things.

Not a thing about that civil service.

Not anything what he said, anything.

Yeah.

Bob doesn't have any notes about anything he said in that case.

Oh, what it is about him.

Oh, yeah, in the 15th.

You see, you and Bob were having a discussion, and he came in for a while.

And, uh, he warned us of the fact that they had been able to infer over their... And Bob, I think, did also show very well.

I asked him, I said, what the hell did we talk about then?

And he looked over the whole thing and said, no problem.

So we talked about, uh,

O'Brien's IRS thing.

What the hell are we doing about the IRS?

That's in there.

I've got that.

That was in there.

That was the, uh, that was the minute.

There was no talk about the damn civil suit.

I can assure you.

Well, I, I would talk about fixing Richard.

Oh, my.

Now, Dean doesn't have to.

You know, I believe that.

But I'd rather we, I'd rather fix the judge.

Well, if this is, he's picked a firm.

He said that the man who said it was fixed with you.

You know Romer?

He's a journalist.

So is Ed McCabe.

Ed McCabe and Romer and Fee were in the Eisenhower administration.

They are two of the most honorable people.

I have a very good reputation.

They'll deny it.

Oh, absolutely.

They'll think they know.

What else did you say?

This is about all we have so far.

Tonight I'll get him, but I run down.

Who gives you that copy?

Oh, he didn't give it to me directly, but he sent it to me.

Okay.

It's over.

He got out and got to walk home.

Well, that may be my...

It's our judgment about being here.

I was assuming it was going to be very narrow, but...

On the other hand, he ran this from him.

This is pretty cat.

But why would he run something in?

Why would he not necessarily run something in?

I'm a slow woman president.

And it's up to you.

Take him to credit first.

And he did try.

And he wants to spread it out as wide as he can.

The government said.

It's possible.

God, I'm sorry.

That's wrong.

Strong and gone, did I?

Strong of what?

Did I?

Oh, I'm sorry.

I'm thinking about something else.

Strong is asked for immunity.

And the committee has voted to give him immunity.

Asked for immunity.

Why?

He is supposed to pull Jane on all of them.

He said that he would testify.

That?

Paul was aware of the cover-up of the building and fully...

Probably within a week or so after the break.

I never saw Straub.

And all of them ever told me.

I thought it was Straub.

But the Christ made Straub.

Straub just crashed.

I don't know, I haven't had a feedback.

I believe Bob, you know, has the money.

Well, no, I'm a lawyer.

I don't believe Bob Hall would lie to me about that.

I asked him.

I asked him first.

I'm breaking Bob's testimony.

Although Bob, you know, said, and I know he told John Wilson, that all...

I don't know what I want to say.

Well, this is the kind of stuff that's got to explode.

This is the kind of stuff that's got to explode.

It's going to be kind of wild for a while.

Oh, Mike Strick was going with him.

I anticipated to come and ask him about the demon.

A conversation.

We sat it off.

I don't know what to do.

I'd like to get that out.

But I wouldn't particularly get that out.

The one out about the bit.

Because that, as I said, is all right if it's true.

If it's true, honestly, it's right.

Otherwise it could be bad.

Dean knows it too.

He knows that you're trying to cancel us.

I see.

So we have the little combo on that though.

Put you in there for a week.

It sure does.

We have stumbled on another one.

And we're trying to follow up on it.

Dean.

At one point, I had a cell phone and my hands on some money that seemed to have stopped working.

Oh, man, it was funny.

Do you remember the $350,000 one?

It turned $22,000.

And that got $22,000 showing in the $350,000.

whose stance is testified.

He later gave back to Strong, and Strong put it back in the lockbox.

So when they delivered the money through the roof, he delivered it for $4,350.

But out of the $22,000, they gave to Chuck Colson to buy ads.

In original intent, he budgeted five ads.

Then they decided not to run from two ads.

So there was money left over.

Now, this was in, again, early June.

Then when the watergate happened, they still had that money in cash down here, $50 bill.

So Howard decided he didn't want any cash on him, which Howard worked for Chuck.

So he asked Strong what to do with the money.

Strong said, I don't want it.

Give it to John Dean.

So they took the time to give it to John Dean, and he said he'd take care of it.

How much did that be?

It was between $7,000 and $14,000.

I don't know what happened.

He came back over just yesterday.

I want to get the crap down.

I don't think anybody, any sensible person believes that.

I want to knock it down.

Otherwise, we can order a picture with all of us and get together and get this damn story out.

What the hell, huh?

Doesn't it come to you, please?

I mean, we're all starting to fight.

We're going to go out and start paying some black men.

Why the hell are we dealing with these guys together?

And it's very clear from Bob's notes to me in the 22nd, it's the one where Mitchell argued that we shouldn't use the grand jury.

There's some place to disclose.

We're supposed to use the committee.

We can all get out here and let them get it out on the phone.

And what if Mitchell voted not to get out on the phone?

Or do you want to go on even yet after the report?

He thought we ought to go out to an executive session in the grand jury to admit that Loveham released the testimony.

That's right.

That was Mitchell's line sitting right next to him.

And later on, Colson.

I was saying, right out of the report, right out to the facts, you give a sworn statement.

I'm sure all of you do.

Is that at all?

Hang on.

You see, Fred, the reason you can now see, looking back when I was sitting on that, that I must have felt the version that the White House was pleading and sending.

In fact, I probably had a sixth sense that maybe there was something going on that I didn't know about.

You just never know.

In other words, it was an insistent, insistent, insistent

I think the major reason is the PR.

I just thought it looked like it was coming up.

Well, we're going to spend a lot of time now in cross-examination.

That's our best approach at the moment.

Yeah.

Is that what you're bringing?

Do you want to come over to the OB?

The strong thing is curious.

John is a great, strong fellow.

A decent man.

He isn't like a Magruder.

He isn't like the thief.

He isn't a hot shot, clever boy of sorts.

Maybe he's just not scared.

There's probably very quite a lot of people who have testified to the question of who they were really threatening with.

I wouldn't be too sure of the way that the devil recharges the straw as much to lay it in the bath.

I think he doesn't do it.

I'm practically worshiping God.

You know, it's pretty, it's more enticing than the air over there.

I may say that he's going to say to Bob, who I've been told that he wants to come here, I'm going to be quick.

He's up there directly.

He's on the watch there.

This is the watch there.

He's there.

But the committee apparently did vote on the question.

Yeah, I understand that.

But I mean, they haven't had strong yet.

They haven't had strong.

How the hell do they know what he's going to say?

Well, if he told them that, I don't know if he's going to make it to the meeting.

I don't know if he's going to make it to the meeting.

More and more is going to come out.

We're strong enough to take them out.

And we'll...

who are very fast to the cross-examination.

And if you get some of these people to speak out, that's the biggest thing we need now, is to get some of these people to speak out at the press, you know, get the other people moving.

We need to get these some of these people.

They're acting as planters.

They're just sitting.

As soon as we can get this cross-examination... What do you want us to do?

Uh...

I think we're going to have to put up their pressure.

I'll report myself.

I know what I'm going to say.

See if I can't get them moving out and speaking about who you have in mind.

We're as well.

Curtis, I know Thurman will, so I can start you off.

I did one of my fights up.

He said, whatever you want me to say, write it.

I wrote it down.

We can get goers to look out.

to be able to get to the point to be honest.

Fred is concerned about the point Ron had spoke to you about, you know, just got to get a few senators to speak up.

Oh, we've had it laid so far.

What's been going on?

Well, they just don't know what they're talking about.

Right.

Curtis.

Very sure.

Curtis, I know where he is.

Yeah.

Right.

Back door.

We can go order one of them.

Go order one of them.

I didn't go order one of them.

You think Stennis might?

Well, Stennis right now, Don, as soon as we see him, just re-operated on last week, or over a second post.

Back in his room, resting for over a second.

Four weeks before.

No, if you hit a gun.

Wait, that's my cup.

Don't worry.

Thanks.

Go on and forget what you did to me.

Oh, let me say that I think that will help.

But also, that's your battle.

The battle, the better, the most effective battle we can fight for is to do what we've been doing.

I'm not saying a man that I've been able to get out and do all these things.

I've been able to get out and do all these things.

That's your investment for now, by far.

You can just say, you know, we didn't discuss these listeners and what we were going to try to do to prepare them, you know, but whatever that comes, whatever gives you the reason, I don't know.

Well, I heard what you said earlier, right?

So, just general statements, I mean, I'm ready to go.

so that we don't have to people that are proud of us when they're the president.

But I think the consensus is that our best position, unless there's some wild, out-of-bill slack, our best position is to say in relation to the testimony,

He would have no comment on any of Russ's testimony.

He would speak to any appropriate comment.

Or he would just say that this testimony is saturated with false statements.

We'll have no further comment.

We'll speak to it.

I don't think it won't be terrible for him to speak to anything in a later time.

And it implies that it's impressive.

He was telling me a couple of interesting things that they picked up today.

I think the fact that Erlich was signed off on the covert operations,

national security and all that sort of stuff.

I just let that one go.

Well, we aren't changing that.

I don't know.

I just can't believe it.

Is that a leak or a safety leak?

It's a leak.

I don't know.

I don't understand.

Bob, believe it or not, John is going to say that Bob knew of the cover-up one week after this.

What?

It's probably the best stretch.

What do you think?

What in the hell would Bob have known about the cover-up?

What the hell would John have known?

The CIA thing, that's another matter.

Well, the McGruder testimony, that occurred a week later.

I'm not saying that they all know about the McGruder testimony.

Well, that is the truth.

What I mean is that's the truth.

Forget whether it's the truth or not.

I never saw him do it.

So he had no knowledge, whatever, of anything, of ideas.

McGruder says that he talked to Bob in January.

But that's crazy because McGruder was still protesting his innocence to everybody that would listen.

He's not taking everybody around to anybody else.

He was trying to get a job in Illinois.

He was taught by a writer in Secretary of State.

Until March or April.

Seen some of the conversations.

That's right.

So he wouldn't have told Bob in January if he was involved?

That's ridiculous.

He wouldn't have if he would have.

Ah, yes, we wouldn't have had it.

That doesn't implicate Bob.

It doesn't implicate him.

He's not going to...

I don't know what an investigation is going to be.

Whatever effect it has, what I'm saying is that McBooter has gotten himself way out on a limb with some of his testimony.

This is just one of the items.

We're not stretching the testimony, in fact.

But I just trust in the strong men.

I can't believe Gordon's strong.

I can't quite believe.

First, that it happened.

And second, that he's concerned about us.

We were about to cover up for him when he got there.

And then he got up and popped with me.

He looked at me that very hard.

When we were back there, we weren't thinking about this guy, guys.

Ron, at that time.

I wasn't, were you?

Yeah.

Well, I appreciate that.

I appreciate that.

You know, it's crazy enough, we're going to be trying to go to jail.

Good heavens, we were, and we were checking.

Nobody in the White House was involved, and nobody else in the committee, including McRuder.

That is very wrong of us, Bob.

Very wrong.

If McGregor can pass a wire, he can fly it once and out of the league the second time.

I don't believe it.

What do you say?

Well, McGregor doesn't say that.

No.

Well, they say he's going to say it.

No, they say he's going to say it.

I'm sorry.

McGregor has something to kick you strong.

I'm sorry.

I knew that wasn't going to happen because...

Folks, one other thing.

You may not have gotten out or even talked to Peterson.

When I talked to Peterson, I had told him about Pittman's blackmail thing.

I told him about that.

And he said, he shook his head and said, gee, I don't know what's going to happen to him.

He said, I don't know.

Pittman's a very good friend of mine.

I just told him.

I told him it's not true that it worked that way.

He knows Pittman, see?

Yes, I had that.

and you check into that one and you call it

He was back that night.

He said, you better go back to Gray.

I called him that night.

Yes, you called him.

He told him you better go back to Gray, because he's not telling you the truth.

No.

He said, you informed him.

Because the only reason I told him, you see, that Bob had gone early was because he'd given him the damn document.

So he paid another further check.

So he paid another further check, which you see, you disclosed to him that there had happened.

You told him about the business of blackmail, and where the whole business, you leveled with Peter, he'd been sitting there turning down, who was heading the prosecution.

Why didn't I level before him?

Because my prosecutor was John Dean.

Hell, he's supposed to be telling all this stuff.

And you told him this.

He was off job every day.

And you told him this.

You started telling him this stuff.

In fact, you told him most of it.

Only did me.

Which was the day that he came up and told you that John Dean was down seeking immunity.

Right.

And also that told me that Paul and Irving ought to be fired.

That's right.

And gave me a sheet of paper that wasn't enough.

Didn't have any evidence of it.

And we saw that on the paper every night.

I called Rogers that night and showed him the piece of paper that was on the boat that I went to the next night.

Bill Wood kept it.

He said, that's not enough.

And all of that.

One of the big things is that, and I think it's going to be very helpful, is everything is going to stand.

And Henry Peterson says, the president told me this, and the president told me that.

What does he remember about Pittman?

He remembers about Pittman.

He remembers about you telling him about Pittman.

Pittman asked her for $120,000.

He remembers about you coming back and telling him, well, they did give you that.

So these are the kind of things.

This shows the complete absence of a cover-up, because you were kind of in the process of

at that point who would tell you yourself.

And you called and talked to Henry Peterson Frank and took every day from that day on.

I know what you mean.

So easy.

I tried to get the bill, and I said, now Henry, you tell me everything except don't tell me anything from a graduate.

So Henry, another old man said, uh, Wilson, after I talked to him, said, we'd like a piece of paper showing what they've done on Bob and John.

And I called Peterson and I said, would you give me a piece of paper?

And he came and he said, I can't do it because of the recall of the grand jury testimony.

I said, fine, I don't want it.

Do you remember that?

I was, we were, I played the level with him all the way.

He doesn't question that very much.

No, he doesn't.

I think he'll recognize it.

Oh, really?

The only time when I did something, you know, he didn't like when I called him.

I did him hard because...

I guess couldn't believe that he, you know, would go into a national security thing.

When I told him, I said, Chancellor, this is not your job.

But I, later on, he came in and said, we've got to turn it around.

I said, send it up.

That's what the Secretary of the Navy, a lot of audience talks about when he sends his stuff off.

Right?

Right.

Well, it's going to be interesting to hear a theory about Dr. Paul.

I really want to collect some things from what he did with that money.

He's got about $7,000.

$7,000 to $14,000.

I'm going to be able to pull the data out to know how much it was.

It went to Joe Berulli's firm.

All we got to do is find out how much he got for the ad.

The rest of us will turn tight and try to keep it strong.

So I'm thinking, well, I can't do this.

What I'm thinking is I'll be able to see what he did to us.

He just bought no ads.

He didn't do anything.

So they went down to see him.

I didn't tell him anything.

But he said he didn't do it to me.

I'll take care of it.

And that's where the trail of the money comes.

What was it?

This was in June.

About a week and a half after the war.

He'll pay it.

He'll either convert it or pay it over to the committee or use it for payment.

I don't know what he did with it.

Oh, that's when he was reimbursed with the $350,000.

He was reimbursed later, after the election.

Uh, I've heard about people talking about it on the internet.

The best rule in the world.

Well, this, this might be very helpful across the family.

I'm hoping he doesn't get that one.

If he can't account for what he did with it.

He's got nothing.

He's got nothing left to see.

It doesn't smell like it.

On the other hand, I suppose the whole strategy is deemed to lead them to others no longer.

He's not going to get an interview, is he?

They can't change that kind of statement.

So, his best chance now is to confess to every damn thing he did for them.

But they can still convict him of things that they knew before he went up there.

They can still convict him.

Do they still use any evidence they have?

As of the... Do you think they've got enough evidence to get him?

They think they've got enough to get him.

But they didn't have Magruder on their own.

They didn't have Magruder as our witness against him on their own, sir.

Yes, sir.

Magruder has testified in the branch.

Oh, is that true?

Yes, sir.

Oh, he's testified.

Oh, he's still there?

Yes, sir.

You shot him in the branch, sir?

Yes, sir.

I know.

The truth, though, he's been there.

Yes, sir.

He lied.

He told us.