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Conversation: 447-013

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Start Date: 19-Jun-1973 12:10 PM

End Date: 19-Jun-1973 12:35 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

447-013a.mp3

447-013b.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 19, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:10 pm to 12:35 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 447-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 447-13

Date: June 19, 1973
Time: 12:10 pm - 12:35 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

     President’s previous conversation with Leonid I. Brezhnev 

           -Agreements       

                                      -11-

             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. March-2012)

                                                      Conversation No. 447-13 (cont’d)

          -Economic relations          

                 -George P. Shultz           

                        -Nikolai S. Patolichev       

                              -Transportation      

                        -Sequoia

     -Schedule        

          -Sequoia dinner 

                 -Brezhnev’s view             

                        -Patolichev, Shultz
                              -Camp David
                              -Kissinger, Andrei A. Gromyko, Andrei Aleksandrov
                              -William P. Rogers
          -Signing of agreement            

                 -Timing         

                 -Press relations        

                 -Ceremony at White House          

                 -San Clemente          

                 -Appearance         

                        -Negotiations
                 -Allies
                 -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                 -Compared with Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] agreement
                   signed in Moscow, 1972 

          -Jet lag       

          -Interpreters        

     -Brezhnev’s relationship with President 

          -Interactions        

          -Interpreters        


President’s forthcoming conversation with Brezhnev
      -Agenda
            -Mutual and Balanced Force Reduction [MBFR], SALT closing date
                  -Rogers, Gromyko
                  -Kissinger, Dobrynin

Rogers
     -Forthcoming talks on Middle East, Conference on Security and Cooperation in
                                       -12-

             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. March-2012)

                                                        Conversation No. 447-13 (cont’d)

      Europe [CSCE] 

          -Statement length       

          -Gromyko        


Brezhnev’s schedule
     -Kissinger, Dobrynin
     -Sequoia
           -Shultz, Patolichev
                 -Camp David         

           -Aleksandrov        

           -Gromyko, Kissinger         

           -Ronald L. Ziegler      

                 -Soviet counterpart [Leonid M. Zamyatin]       

           -Security      


President’s previous conversation with Brezhnev
      -Jews      

            -Public relations     

            -Possible demonstrations      

                   -Sequoia

                         -Blacks    


Brezhnev’s schedule
     -Senators
           -Capitol
                 -Administrative assistants       

           -Hubert H. Humphrey         

           -Response        

           -Briefing      

     -Signing of agreements
           -Compared to John F. Kennedy’s administration
                 -Oceanography
                 -Nuclear Test Ban Treaty
                 -Transportation, agriculture, oceanography, cultural exchange
           -Tax Treaty        

                 -Shultz        

           -Peaceful use of nuclear energy, SALT 

                                        -13-

             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. March-2012)

                                                           Conversation No. 447-13 (cont’d)

           -SALT principles      

               -Joint Chiefs of Staff’s [JSC] reaction 

                     -Timing of agreement         


President’s previous conversation with Brezhnev
      -State Dinner
            -Russian proverb
                  -Friendship in adversity
            -Kissinger’s conversation with People’s Republic of China [PRC] ambassador
             [Huang Hun]

Possible visit by PRC officials to US in 1973
      -Talks, August 1973
            -Possible announcement
                   -Chou En-Lai

Head of State visits
     -Previous meetings with R. G. Heath, Georges J. R. Pompidou, [Shah of Iran]
      Mohammed Reza Pahlavi
     -Kissinger’s experience

Brezhnev’s schedule
     -Dobrynin
     -Sequoia
           -Photographic session
           -Dinner      

     -Helicopter      

     -Camp David        

           -Arrangements       

     -SALT        

     -Kissinger and Dobrynin        

     -Rogers        

           -Camp David

Prevention of Nuclear War agreement
     -Rogers’s views concerning North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] guidelines
           -Rogers’s conversation with U. Alexis Johnson
                                          -14-

              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. March-2012)

                                                          Conversation No. 447-13 (cont’d)

           -Great Britain, Germany      

           -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.     

           -Article 51 objectives    

                  -Compared to commitments           

      -Rogers’s views at Hangchow 


Forthcoming briefings on agreements
      -Kissinger’s schedule
      -SALT
            -Congressional relations       

                  -President      


Brezhnev’s visit
     -Possible demonstrations
           -Security     

                 -Camp David          

                 -Sequoia


Watergate
     -John W. Dean, III 

            -Republicans, Democrats            

            -Handling of funds         

            -Fred Thompson’s possible questioning           

            -White House response          

                  -President’s activities        

            -President’s opponents        

                  -Goals      

                        -Media coverage            

            -Delay of hearings        

                  -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield         

                        -Rogers compared to Haig          

                        -Partisanship        

Senate
     -Scott       

            -President’s refusal to speak with Scott, June 18, 1973 

            -Vietnam

                  -Cease-fire agreement
                                           -15-


                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                     Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. March-2012)

                                                             Conversation No. 447-13 (cont’d)


            -John C. Stennis
                  -Hospitalization   

            -Herman E. Talmadge      

            -Members        


      Brezhnev’s schedule      

           -Lunch       

           -Senate Foreign Relations Committee 

           -Economic meeting        

                 -Shultz    

           -Sequoia


Kissinger left at 12:35 pm.