{"conversationCode":"447-025","tapeNumber":447,"conversationNumber":25,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-447-025","startDateTime":"1973-06-19T19:01:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-19T19:04:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Jun-1973","startTime":"3:01 PM","endDate":"19-Jun-1973","endTime":"3:04 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie Nixon;","description":"On June 19, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:01 pm to 3:04 pm. 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(President)","Eisenhower, Julie Nixon"],"prevCode":"447-024","nextCode":"447-026","transcript":[{"start":2.07,"end":8.28,"text":"What are how everything went today?"},{"start":8.3,"end":26.56,"text":"Really?"},{"start":26.58,"end":26.72,"text":"Really?"},{"start":26.74,"end":27.42,"text":"How many were there?"},{"start":27.44,"end":28.64,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":28.66,"end":28.76,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":28.78,"end":28.88,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":28.9,"end":29,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":29.02,"end":29.12,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":29.14,"end":29.24,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":29.26,"end":29.36,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":29.38,"end":29.48,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":29.5,"end":30,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":30.02,"end":30.12,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":32.97,"end":54.47,"text":"Yeah, did they ask you about the song?"},{"start":54.49,"end":55.59,"text":"Or, uh, they were interested in that?"},{"start":55.61,"end":55.69,"text":"Yes."},{"start":56.25,"end":57.19,"text":"Well, uh, and, uh, we were, uh,"},{"start":58.15,"end":59.69,"text":"We may."},{"start":71.36,"end":72.16,"text":"There."},{"start":72.53,"end":78.35,"text":"Oh, uh, fine."},{"start":78.91,"end":86.32,"text":"Well, I wish you well tonight."},{"start":86.58,"end":91.03,"text":"I'm sure it's going to go well."},{"start":91.05,"end":91.81,"text":"I appreciate all of your work on this."},{"start":91.83,"end":95.31,"text":"Just talking to Ron Bigler, and let me tell you that, you know, you're concerned about the Trident."},{"start":95.33,"end":95.89,"text":"We've been talking about it."},{"start":95.91,"end":99.1,"text":"I intend to have one, but I've got the weight of these goods on, see, so that I can sort of, you know, get that past this, because don't be concerned about it."},{"start":99.12,"end":99.44,"text":"Thank you, guys."},{"start":99.46,"end":100.34,"text":"But, you know, we're going to do a good job."},{"start":102.12,"end":122.78,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":122.8,"end":122.94,"text":"Well..."},{"start":130.91,"end":149.27,"text":"Perspective, right?"},{"start":149.29,"end":149.41,"text":"Right."},{"start":149.43,"end":154.98,"text":"Well, you know... Yeah."},{"start":155,"end":155.18,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":155.2,"end":155.62,"text":"Probably gonna drive."},{"start":155.64,"end":155.96,"text":"It's a nice car."},{"start":155.98,"end":157.6,"text":"Actually, let me tell you, the thing is, on this, uh, we're ready to strike back."},{"start":157.62,"end":157.96,"text":"We've got a plan."},{"start":157.98,"end":158.32,"text":"We've got a plan."},{"start":158.34,"end":158.68,"text":"We've got a plan."},{"start":158.7,"end":159.04,"text":"We've got a plan."},{"start":159.06,"end":159.4,"text":"We've got a plan."},{"start":161.61,"end":185.26,"text":"A lot of them."},{"start":185.28,"end":185.34,"text":"No."},{"start":185.37,"end":185.43,"text":"No."},{"start":185.44,"end":185.91,"text":"Well, they can't do it."},{"start":185.93,"end":186.23,"text":"No, not for me."},{"start":186.25,"end":186.57,"text":"That's for sure."},{"start":186.59,"end":186.85,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":186.87,"end":187.37,"text":"You've got to be serious."},{"start":187.39,"end":188.39,"text":"Being here today is going to take a lot of charge."},{"start":188.41,"end":188.67,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":188.69,"end":188.95,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":194.78,"end":212.28,"text":"Let us return."},{"start":212.3,"end":212.4,"text":"Well."},{"start":212.42,"end":212.5,"text":"Yes."},{"start":212.52,"end":212.74,"text":"Delightful."},{"start":212.76,"end":212.99,"text":"I love you."},{"start":213,"end":213.39,"text":"With brand new arm."},{"start":213.41,"end":213.49,"text":"Yes."},{"start":230.36,"end":233.53,"text":"Well, fine."},{"start":234.03,"end":234.4,"text":"Good luck."},{"start":234.42,"end":235.32,"text":"Thanks very much."},{"start":235.56,"end":235.64,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, for a brief personal check-in regarding her recent activities and upcoming evening engagements. During the discussion, the President alluded to political pressures, expressing confidence in a strategic plan to \"strike back\" against his detractors. 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