{"conversationCode":"447-030","tapeNumber":447,"conversationNumber":30,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-447-030","startDateTime":"1973-06-21T19:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-21T19:56:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Jun-1973","startTime":"3:52 PM","endDate":"21-Jun-1973","endTime":"3:56 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rebozo, Charles G. (\"Bebe\");","description":"On June 21, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles G. (\"Bebe\") Rebozo met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:52 pm to 3:56 pm. 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Oh, I see."},{"start":143.58,"end":143.78,"text":"All right."},{"start":143.8,"end":146.5,"text":"But you know the, uh, the, uh..."},{"start":146.53,"end":146.72,"text":"The, uh..."},{"start":146.75,"end":146.94,"text":"The, uh..."},{"start":146.97,"end":148.55,"text":"The, uh..."},{"start":148.57,"end":148.77,"text":"The, uh..."},{"start":148.79,"end":148.99,"text":"The, uh..."},{"start":149.01,"end":149.21,"text":"The, uh..."},{"start":149.23,"end":149.43,"text":"The, uh..."},{"start":149.45,"end":149.65,"text":"The, uh..."},{"start":161.98,"end":162.9,"text":"Good job."},{"start":162.92,"end":163.15,"text":"Good."},{"start":163.87,"end":165.01,"text":"Well, fine."},{"start":165.03,"end":169.19,"text":"I'll give you a call tomorrow."},{"start":169.21,"end":169.41,"text":"All right."},{"start":170.06,"end":170.54,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his close associate Bebe Rebozo discuss the logistics of an ongoing arrangement involving an unidentified third party and a lawyer. The exchange centers on ensuring a specific task is completed, with Nixon emphasizing that the individual must follow through even if the legal representative declines to intervene. The conversation concludes with a plan for the two to reconnect the following day.","topics":["Legal counsel","Confidential arrangements","Executive coordination","Political strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:45:29.043Z"},"topicSlugs":["legal-counsel","confidential-arrangements","executive-coordination","political-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":175,"audioFiles":[{"file":"447-030.mp3","bytes":5607424,"durationSec":175.15,"bitrate":256124,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:06.080Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/447-030.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/447-030","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/447/conversation-447-030","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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