Nixon, Ehrlichman & Evans on Revenue Sharing and Hanford Nuclear Reactor

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All right.

Well, I can't listen to you, sir.

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You've got to, you've got to, you've got to advocate for the state and for the community.

If anybody's getting in trouble, you've got to, you've got to, you've got to, you've got to, you've got to, you've got to, you've got to, you've got to, you've got to, you've got to, you've got to, you've got to, you've got to, you've got to,

Well, I was going to give it to you, but I don't need that.

I already got it, but I really just want that.

I believe in the mission of 150,000 jobs, $600,000 tax revenue, $20,000 at least.

foreign exchange, and as the environmental policy needs to be solved, we're going to end up like the United States in the United States in the United States in the United States in the United States in the United States in the United States in the United States in the United States

I think we did a good job in running it off and accessing it, but they had to call a lot of others to try to go around it.

We were able to identify some areas that were principally affected, and we had to fire a case against them.

I think that's about as good as it could be.

We looked at all the sources.

We talked to the press at home.

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I don't know if you can see it.

I don't see it.

Where is it?

I don't know.

Let me say to the, you know, we've been around the barn a number of times, and the job will tell you what it means most of the time.

And, yeah, I mean, it's fun.

I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

and then he's going to John Rice and then moving to John Rice and then we're going to go out on Phelps and then hopefully he's going to go to Dr. Seaboard again.

I think there's probably a rare occasion when someone comes back complaining about legislation.

If you come back and say we need a proposal and we need to get in contact with our power people, the public and private power people together.

They're so concerned about the loss of power.

But the loss of power is an opportunity that we've been offering to pay television in the next year, additionally to the

for the power of the machine, for the team, and that makes a significant difference, I think, in the budget decisions, because, you know, we have, we're, you know, right now, we're, we're, we, with all the power, with all the kind of electric power, and the growing thermal power we've got in the Midwest, we are, we are in charge of research, of, and, and, and, and, and, and, and so, we've got to work these enormous, uh,

light metals industries up there.

We've got probably a dozen aluminum mines right now.

And those are terribly used.

One of them is hiring about 800 people.

Consumes more electricity than the one company did.

It's being 100,000 people.

So what we're asking for is a three-year, you know, dual-purpose operation.

for which we're willing to pay $250 million for that per year.

And then that will give us time to get the necessary design and analysis to do it on a single purpose and take it over and run it ourselves.

Dr. Rice, I was very grateful to the President.

He said that things could probably not be the things that this presentation has given us the information that they haven't had.

And that they need a lot of leadership to sit in on what we're seeing right now.

And I think he did a good job.

I think he did a good job.

Apparently, there's other material, too, that... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I figured that out.

But, you know, I don't think it's...

I'm sure one of the other things is just the hand.

And of course, we go, we tell them that we've destroyed the southern airspace of the interstate lines.

And they say there's a minimum time for that to get back to the hand production.

So we're in a situation now where we can't even get back the power on the machine, which is in California.

And I think it's a great question of whether there is any alternative to the loss of the NJAC here in Jersey Bay Park, which is part of the place.

It was questionable before, and now it's terrible.

Yeah, I was in Los Angeles, there to pray, and talk to some of the Southern California City, and that's it.

It's Christmas.

You're lucky that I'm here.

That's where I've been all this time, too.

You've taken the biggest, the worst, even, I mean, a rap.

In fact, it's an art lesson for some of you out in the morning.

You're the worst you can be, aren't you?

But, uh, I'm about to complete the whole thing.

We can get the dirt around some.

I'll make a thousand now.

That'll help some.

We see the signs, you know.

Really?

Well, I don't know.

Our electricity, our insurance unemployment rate was just under 12% for the statewide business.

Now, that doesn't seem to have a great effect on the remote team.

If that decision stands, we have something to do for that whole Price City area.

It's got a decent portion to it.

It's not an 113, it's a 22.5% which is, you know, it's a devastating piece of coverage.

But I need to put a hand in her.

You know, there's a way to make this thing work and what we brought back in terms of the new material handle, I mean, you know,

uh that works and if we're able to you know help uh do our part to help you and ssc

We're back in the senior year and I think we'll see people begin to understand them.

During this past year's study, early 2019, we asked them to plot for me the rate of savings.

And the beginning of 1997 was 2.2 billion and it went up by the end of the year to 2.8 billion.

So there's another half a billion dollars of savings and planning that's dreaded, and people just are afraid of the sand.

And we can get that cycle off, and we've got this, uh, this heat over the market, and I think we'll set it back to about two, not to that extent, savings are the highest in 20 years, and there's not that big of a $43, $43 billion cost to the economy.

Well, there are a sense of how many people are going to be taking this kind of stock market, you know.

And that's far more than we realize these days.

Because there's so many people in it.

And the market's hanging around now around 8, 9.

My colleague at 6.30 is going to get in the air at 1 o'clock.

Do you want it to stay at 1 o'clock?

They're going to resolve it in the market.

No.

Don't get it.

No.

They're going to know that.

They're going to know what's going on.

I just get one chunk of corporate bonds.

It means nothing to me whatsoever.

You can't do anything with anything that I can get from you.

I'm just going to get those to get out of the market.

We got a lot of information that was so meaningful.

Not to be able to be involved during that period of time on the girls and the other questions that everybody else was having.

But you had that contact and that's probably the most important time.

I don't know what to say about the driver.

You know, that's the fault.

This is something that the driver had written out in his hand written in this morning.

You know, the people that you find in school, at least, one of the school districts is with you.

They're not there because they just didn't think it was a chance to pass the two others.

But, you know, they pay it.

The year two, the year three funds are just, you know, they're falling apart.

How much are you talking about?

I don't know.

And we're talking about $15 million a year or less.

And we're talking about $15 million a year back.

Plus the fact that for this next year, they have on the books in their budget to purchase

What's the situation?

You're sick and you're retired.

You're having great PhDs and so forth.

Not PhDs, but technicians.

That's all.

What in the world are you looking to do?

They're always at the seller's market.

Us, who bid for a race package there, $25,000 a year, we want certain kinds of monies.

We know that by our sense of the mind.

God, then it's chopped off.

And here they are, they've got kids, they've got a car or two, they've got a house in the pens, and they're in school, and they don't know that they've got a bank.

They can't do it either.

We're not celebrating pictures on there.

They can't.

What do they can't do?

They're not going to do that.

They are driving taxis and they're doing anything they can do.

We thought we were going to do it, but they're all dead.

recovery and they are so devoted to the living conditions and that part of that definitely will not be in a one week gap.

And one of the important things I think the end of this three year gap is that we now have this highly trained group of operators.

Now they operate a nuclear reactor and a power reactor.

and they are the people we are going to meet in the future.

In fact, I had one press conference.

I had a happy nomination of commenting, because that was the day to have commenting on the closure of the

of the power reactor in Hanford.

At the same time, we received an official application for Hanford No.

2, which is our next new power reactor going into Hanford.

Under the public box license, this is our local agency.

In about three to four years, they will be hiring operators.

But it's interesting to see the kind of people who run this second reactor.

If we dissipate this greatest strength, in terms of how we can bring it up in three years, four years, whether it does complete it, if we have an opportunity to bridge the gap, I think the community has done.

put a job over the period of the last seven or eight years and bridging the gap has the nuclear reactors have been cut back diversified and kept new companies in there but on the new one of the new big

And they're talking about, like, 500 research people go.

Because, you see, the last few reactors closed down, but they made their research, much of it, and have been trying to source some way to get that source of material because that's what they're researching.

and you close them down and they have nothing to go through.

Our parents say they care just a little bit about the possibility of, you know, getting some, some source there which would assist them.

But what they learned is, John, I'll just, I'll probably just let you say the word.

We were certainly interested in this kind of topic.

We just strapped it out, you know, and we've, uh, we've, uh, we've been sitting around here, you know.

Well, I, I, uh, we're, uh, we're going to, uh, we're going to, uh, we're going to, uh, we're going to, uh,

We are not even talking about this year.

And I was reading both of those points last year and the year before.

Being an actor, I never was reading six of those reports.

But overall, he's not a favorite.

We were ever aware of him.

I heard about him last year.

But he was a fine dude, though.

He's a nice guy.

He's all around.

I'm really sharing that.

I'm sorry to hear that, but you know who my husband is?

He speaks in the 29th.

But I hope you're really kicking it hard.

Here's what you're up to, son.

Put it on the line.

He's a press guy.

He says, look, there's the establishment here.

The establishment here wants to do a call.

And I said, hear her, son.

The guy's on the ballot with the hoax.

The governors, the mayors, the county officials, there are a majority that are for it and a majority that people are for it.

So it's really, you've got to have it.

I see that you mentioned some of your reflections.

You know, just timeline, you know, time has come.

And I think this year, I guess, I drove down the road through all of my mayors and all of my county officials telling me to get on the ball and get it going.

Well, one of the lines I tried to get it through to summarize it all, but how it really gets down to this, that they can speak of this as a ragged book of old concept, that the difficulty of the present time, as I've said, is paper-fed like a gun.

There's three reasons why it costs too much.

Two, it doesn't work.

And three,

They don't have enough to say about it.

They can't do anything about it.

Now, what are our interests?

One, it reduces the cost.

Two, it helps to make it work.

And three, it gives the people something to do about it.

Now, for that reason, it doesn't need money so much.

But a lot of people can do a lot more about the guy who's the governor or mayor or the county commissioner than he can, frankly, than the federal bureaucracy.

All this jazz, and you've got your mind caught right in my heart.

Now, you'd rather you get a chance than get a concert.

You know, that's kind of a burden.

Jesus is too far away, you know, to resonate.

In other words, you can't remember whether she'd go to school, middle school, or teach us.

That's up to you to determine.

Should it go into a highway, or into a garage?

Should it go into a rural program, or a city program, or a rural development, or a city development, or this or that?

What kind of housing and center is the real housing?

Whether it should be urban development.

On the other hand, you just have to realize, at the other point,

In the past 20 years, local debt has gone up 600% in 20 years.

And property taxes in the last three and a half years, and those are the only ones, except for sales tax, but they're really the only ones people know, and they're involved, and it's coming slower every turn.

Property taxes have really made their way up twice a year.

They've gone up two and a half, and now they've seen ten here since the National Army.

Now, damn it, he does something.

The only way to stop him is reverting him.

And that's why he's here.

What can you do about it?

And what can you do about Trump if he's going to win?

If he is that guy out there, he is out.

I don't like the way you're going around.

If you're not here, I can kill the rascals out.

You can't cure all of the rascals that you're speaking about.

Not the elected congressmen, Senator Drew.

We only come when we go.

No more than you're being insane.

If your arms keep it too late, you're being insane.

and they're trying to talk and on and on, and no one can do a goddamn thing about it.

That's what this is all about.

And I think you've got to help people.

You're out here, and you can see, you're identifying with the, which is Smith-Burnard party, and I don't want to be a partisan, but you're identifying with the aggressive, you know, liberal line that you have a lobby with.

The idea that somebody would say, this is a two-handed labor,

Of course they will.

They're part of the establishment.

They're part of the committee.

They're part of the group.

They're part of the establishment.

The businessmen, they're part of the establishment.

But the establishment is wrong.

It's got to be changed.

And now is the time to change it.

Well, I hate to hear it, but we're excited to hear it because it's time.

I'll wait for the change to be forced on them.

Yeah, but I think the Democrats are at least telling themselves, trying to figure out how to respond.

Let me ask you another thing.

Don't go there.

We'll do this.

We'll just have a federal government.

We won't have revenue sharing.

In fact, we don't know about it.

We'll take over the welfare costs.

That only puts more money into this act.

This program participates directly in the welfare reform, too.

And I have a name.

I'm from New York.

I'm from California.

But it's more than my understanding.

It's just my understanding.

No, I certainly agree with that.

Of course, I think the two most, you know, the domestic programs we've had for, I don't know, 20 years, you know, we've had more of our revenue sharing in the 12-year-old program.

I think there's just a lot of area to help with.

It's going to take a lot of time.

In other words, you do not destroy the quality.

In other words, we're correcting what's wrong and destroying what's good in the whole world.

But, why don't you go and provide a very catastrophic deal for the city of Manhattan?

And if you see that you've got the other approach in the national building, Wall Street, which first we can't afford, and second, we're destroying the quality of that building.

And then that's our problem.

We'll probably get to that in a few minutes.

Well, I'd like to say what it was all about today.

My dad was a rotors businessman across the house from the people.

They brought out a boy and a daughter.

And he, with all that we've heard from him, he paid attention to just what I've said today.

Of course, he said he was proud that he had something to do with it, but he said, you have the best domestic program in the world.

You got the words.

I'm over here.

All units, you are out of my way.

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We're on the verge of a traffic trial, too, so I don't think that's going to affect us very much.

It's a great place to live.

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Thank you very much.

We have now narrowed down the high-presence problems on this thing to one issue, and that is whether we can include these health maintenance organizations like Edgar Kaiser's permanently then.

The Vice President just cannot see it.

We tried 15 minutes from Franklin to explain it to him and help him to understand it.

He frankly says, well, I don't think they'll work, but if the President thinks it's a good idea, I'll support him 100 percent.

Well, everybody else has said very strongly that we go with it.

And he's the one holdout that we have.

The whole office.

Now let me ask you, you know I'm not too keen on anything you're saying, I don't know.

This, let me tell you how I am.

This is a private enterprise.

Well that's a piece of cake.

And the reason that he can, the reason he can do it, I had Dr. Kaiser come in and talk to me about this, and I want to do it someday.

All of the incentives are toward less medical care because the less care they give them, the more money they make.

The Senate's on the right way.

On LEAA and the Commissioner of Internal Revenue, there's been a very interesting development.

John Mitchell called me a while ago and said, you know, I was for Ambrose for LEAA administration.

He said, we have had long talks with Ambrose.

And we're not sure that he's loyal to the president."

He said, uh, he said, we have very serious doubts, and both Dick Kleindienst and I recommend very strongly that he not be considered for either position.

How the hell did he know this before?

He said, heck, I don't know.

And how, uh, why wouldn't he?

What kind of things were they talking about?

Well, they could not get him to commence to stay for any particular length of time.

They had the feeling that he was just trying to find a stepping stone

to get them into a better position.

And so Mitchell says, I won't have it.

And he says, I would not recommend it, commonly taken.

Now I said, what are you going to do about LEA?

And he said, I'm going to move Jerry Leonard over there.

He said, I want to get him out of civil rights.

He can't get in any trouble with LEA.

And he said, I'll put him there.

He said, I will put a fellow named Dave Norman in as acting director of the civil rights division.

He's a Republican.

He's more conservative than Jerry Langer.

So I said, well, that sounds good.

But right now, we don't have any nominee yet.

So that's still an open question.

That's right.

And, uh, we just, we've given him our vote.

Yes, I have.

And, you know, I, uh, I thought it was a good idea.

And then I had lunch with a bunch of businessmen that Pete had in, uh, some way.

And, uh, uh, they had a Western house, a bunch of guys.

And he is great with those guys.

He knows how to handle those guys like nobody else.

Well, if you look at here, that's the point.

We don't have anybody else around here who can really...

Well, I say I'm sort of infatuated this afternoon because I just sat there and marveled at the way he played these guys against somebody else.

I don't mean to say that this needs to be conclusive.

It may be that Peter went over to somebody else.

I wonder if we could do this.

Well, or he can have them over there.

We can use him over there to have some of these businessmen's groups, uh, and we'll close it, you know, in that way.

Uh, because we're in my mind.

So, we haven't asked or not if the State Department calls.

Well, he would like to become the head of the Smithsonian Museum of the Airspace.

You have no objection to that, I take it?

Okay.

I call.

No, but we can announce it.

Actually, the Smithsonian would appreciate it if we made it one time tonight.

Because they'd like to upgrade this museum for the next public eye, so we can handle that.

Before we got this judged, remember I told you one time, Senator, about camp wheeling.

The Bar Association will blast us, and Dick Lange says that in view of the fact that he's turned down so many other Senators, he would have to resign.

Will you point this out?

So, uh, we just have to do it and that's underway, but I wanted to just...

What would you think about Jim Schlesinger as Undersecretary of the Interior?

Morgan wants it, Morgan wants it, and everybody's high on it.

That's what I mean, seriously.

The only problem is, as you know, he's not good at most stuff.

I've told Morgan that.

He's going to have COVID.

He is as hard-ass as the other Paul.

Well, uh, that's in the works.

And, uh, Clannigan said that as well.

Now, here's what he said.

He says, the ambassador to Australia is John Rawlings, man.

I know.

The ambassador to New Zealand is the wrong number.

And he's Frank Shakespeare's friend.

And Peter says it's between the two.

The better swap is New Zealand.

Because of all the trouble we have with Rawlings.

Frank Shakespeare.

Yeah.

Well, that's it.

He said he's bad news.

And, uh, so...

Not yet, but Peter's working on that.

And so, probably Monday, we'll have Fred Russell come in to say goodbye to you, and you can make the offer to him, and we'll work out pretty well.

Yeah.

He's rich, and he's a bachelor, and why not?

Yeah.

Okay, the other thing is that we have not yet been able to crack the Democrats on running share.

They are milling around like a bunch of confused cattle.

They don't know what to do, but we think we can get Hubert Humphrey.

And if we want to get Huber Humphrey to co-sponsor revenue sharing, then we're going to be able to start the practice thing.

It becomes very, very important.

Now, I've talked to Huber Humphrey, and he said he would support us, but I think it will take your intervention on it.

He has a bill on revenue sharing.

It's not very different than ours.

It's some different.

It's not as good as ours.

And I think if you asked him that he would go, okay.

Sure.

Mike and Mr. Carr, the president's only got one of the best questions on that.

Yeah, I overheard that suburban housing has been full of that.

That was some crap.

I think you might be right about that.

Quite a lot of us, so I figured I'd turn around and ask you to answer the questions that you just heard.

I said, I don't expect these, uh, you know, these people out there in the country, they're in the valleys.

That's a good line.

They're in the valleys.

They're on the front lines.

I think that's not a bad account to use.

Now, this guy is going this way.

He's basically liberal as hell.

But let's just roll him in the corner.

We'll put him on the road.

You know, he can go around and talk to those same people Lindsey talks to.

John, our greatest strength is we've got governors, senators, I mean, governors, mayors, and county officials.

The other charge is that 75% of the people don't know that.

Don't worry about it.

I've got some people squealing.

Where's squealing?

They don't know what to do.

He's expressing his pride.

I'd say you'd have to run around the house and see if you can get rid of that body sling.

Oh, I'm on my way.

Oh, yeah.

I know Ryan.

I'm going to go ahead and deal with somebody else.

And I'd like to play my part.

I'd like to play my part.

You can take care of Amy Henry or Rose or somebody else.

And I'll deal with her.

I'll play my part.

All right.

I was going to ask you, I don't know what the hell you can do about it.

You know, I'm trying to find a White House solution for America, but we've got to do something with the poor farmers.

You know, they're told some farmers are going to... We've got to make sure that Bob Dole has worked up, that we're going to work with him on.

It's a whole series of little things.

But such things as having the heads of the farm organizations in and talking to them about what their desires and suggestions are and that kind of stuff is just extravagant and quite a salute to American agriculture.

It's not a bad idea.

I think we had it related, you know, they've got a real damn fine dairy, you know, crazy agriculture, what it does, and farms, you know, we're the best fed nation in the world, now that we've got our farmers signed up, you know.

So, I'm going to have it, have it, have it, have it built.

Send it to every grain, you know, every good...

As you know, we missed getting Hyde-Murray, and we've got to get a good, full-time White House man.

Are you still working on it, of course?

Not quite yet, but very much part-time.

There's a man that I used to know that went with me as the agricultural advisor to the Herder Committee, 47th and 48th agencies.

I think he can be fast.

Let's see if we can get him.

He'll find out what it is.

Yeah, the one that landed the bus being in a herd committee is agricultural land.

And since then, you're probably making a pot full of money.

Well, we'll find out where it is.

We'll find out where it is and see if we can get it.

But we feel that, but also the National Committee is very much going to get into this.

And Dole, of course, is very interested in it.

So we did what he did with his talents and whatever he did with his talents, he got us those farm streets and American farms and farms.

A lot of people related to the farmers, and let's face it, they've always been our friends, and we could use a whole lot of them.

Well, do we currently have that?

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