{"conversationCode":"452-005","tapeNumber":452,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-452-005","startDateTime":"1971-02-19T17:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-02-19T17:44:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Feb-1971","startTime":"12:41 PM","endDate":"19-Feb-1971","endTime":"12:44 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:41 pm and 12:44 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 452-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 452-005\nDate: February 19, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 12:41 pm and 12:44 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull\nThe President’s schedule\n-Press coverage\n-Forthcoming meeting with Lionel Hampton\n-Harriet Elam\n-Presentation of gift by the President\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:44 pm","filename":["452-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:33:52","tapeEnd":"02:35:17","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"452-004","nextCode":"452-006","transcript":[{"start":3.47,"end":8,"text":"Yeah, he said, maybe you have a little bit more time."},{"start":11.66,"end":33.43,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":33.45,"end":33.63,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":33.66,"end":33.84,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":33.81,"end":42.04,"text":"You have some coasters to give to her."},{"start":42.06,"end":44.35,"text":"However, perhaps you might want to give her a taste of her other work, or a pearl tending to give her one another."},{"start":44.37,"end":44.65,"text":"Pearl tending."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed logistical details regarding the President's upcoming schedule, specifically focusing on a planned meeting with Lionel Hampton. They discussed the protocol for presenting official gifts, including coasters and potential jewelry, to Harriet Elam during the event. The conversation served to coordinate the specific items to be gifted and ensured appropriate preparations were made for the engagement.","topics":["Presidential Schedule","Lionel Hampton","Gift Giving","Harriet Elam","White House Protocol"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:55:39.860Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","lionel-hampton","gift-giving","harriet-elam","white-house-protocol"],"audioDurationSec":53,"audioFiles":[{"file":"452-005.mp3","bytes":2110501,"durationSec":52.62,"bitrate":320847,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:47.662Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/452-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/452-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/452/conversation-452-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}