{"conversationCode":"452-013","tapeNumber":452,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-452-013","startDateTime":"1971-02-19T18:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-02-19T18:09:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Feb-1971","startTime":"1:08 PM","endDate":"19-Feb-1971","endTime":"1:09 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:08 pm and 1:09 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 452-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 452-013\n\nDate: February 19, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 1:08 pm and 1:09 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull\n\n     The President’s schedule\n          -Forthcoming meeting with officials of the Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW]\n                -Length\n                -General Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and Charles W. Colson\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 1:09 pm","filename":["452-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:58:17","tapeEnd":"02:58:54","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"452-012","nextCode":"452-014","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":27.57,"text":"This is Les."},{"start":27.59,"end":27.82,"text":"This is Lee."},{"start":27.84,"end":28.09,"text":"This is Lee."},{"start":28.11,"end":28.35,"text":"This is Lee."},{"start":28.37,"end":28.61,"text":"This is Lee."},{"start":28.63,"end":28.87,"text":"This is Lee."},{"start":28.89,"end":29.13,"text":"This is Lee."},{"start":30.78,"end":35.49,"text":"We're glad to have seen a lot of these guys."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to coordinate administrative details regarding an upcoming meeting with officials from the Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW). They discussed the expected duration of the session and the necessary participation of Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and Charles W. Colson. This brief consultation served to finalize the scheduling and internal staffing requirements for the presidential engagement.","topics":["Richard M. Nixon","Stephen B. Bull","Veterans of Foreign Wars","Presidential scheduling","Alexander M. Haig Jr.","Charles W. Colson"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:56:24.403Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-m-nixon","stephen-b-bull","veterans-of-foreign-wars","presidential-scheduling","alexander-m-haig-jr","charles-w-colson"],"audioDurationSec":36,"audioFiles":[{"file":"452-013.mp3","bytes":1425048,"durationSec":35.5,"bitrate":321172,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:47.662Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/452-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/452-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/452/conversation-452-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}