Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 452 › Conversation 452-014
Nixon, Johnson & Colson on Vietnam War and Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW)
Friday, February 19, 1971 · 1:09 PM–1:39 PM ET · Oval Office · 29 min
AI Summary
President Nixon met with VFW leadership, Donald E. Johnson, Charles W. Colson, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. to discuss the administration's Vietnam War policies, including the status of U.S. Prisoners of War and the progress of Vietnamization. A significant portion of the discussion focused on domestic challenges facing returning veterans, particularly the high unemployment rates among Vietnam veterans and the need for improved federal job training and placement programs. Nixon directed his team to prioritize veteran employment initiatives and emphasized the importance of ensuring these programs served all veterans equitably, including minorities.
- Vietnam War
- Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW)
- Prisoners of War (POWs)
- Veterans employment
- Vietnamization
- Domestic policy
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NARA Description
On February 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Cooper Holt, Chief Herbert R. Rainwater, Donald E. Johnson, Charles W. Colson, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:09 pm and 1:39 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 452-014 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 452-014
Date: February 19, 1971
Time: 1:09 pm - unknown before 1:39 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Cooper Holt, Herbert R. (“Chief”) Rainwater, Donald E. Johnson,
Charles W. Colson, and General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
Trip to California
Vietnam War
-Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW]
-Support for administration’s policies
-Laos
-South Vietnamese position
-VFW leader’s trip to Southeast Asia
-United States’ Prisoners of War [POWs]
-Administration’s actions
-Raid on alleged POW camp
-Information on camp
-VFW leader’s trip to Southeast Asia
-Report
-VFW leader’s view
-Negotiations to end war
-Laos and Cambodia
-Release of POWs
-Withdrawal of United States’ troops
-Administration policy
-Vietnamization
-President’s statement
-President’s policy
-United States’ options
-Public discussion
-Military action in Cambodia
-VFW leader’s view
-Effect on United States’ casualties
-Efforts to end the war
-VFW leader’s views
-Paris peace talks
-President’s position
-United States’ military action
-Bombing
-United States’ POWs
-Protests and critics of warShow the rest of the log (99 more lines)
-Laos and Cambodia
-George S. McGovern’s comments
-Domino theory
-Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, and Indonesia
-Philippines
-McGovern’s remarks
-VFW’s press releases
-Protesters
The President’s schedule
-VFW convention
-American Legion convention
-Date and location
-The President’s possible appearance
VFW
-Composition of organization
-Membership
-Veterans
-Racial composition
-Blacks
-Inclusion
-Desegregation
-President’s view
-Inclusion
-Efforts
Composition of armed forces
-Melvin R. Laird
-Views of military service
-Conscientious objectors
-Quakers’ view of war
-President’s World War II service
-Hannah Milhous Nixon
-Comparison to World War II
-Differences
-President’s view
-Effectiveness of draft
-Recruitment efforts
-Attitudes on service by draftees
-Changes since World War II
-Public attitudes
POWs
-Possible legislation
-Retirement
-Physical condition
-Care upon return
-Brigadier General Daniel (“Chappie”) James, Jr.
VFW dinners
-The Vice President
-National convention
-President’s schedule
Veterans
-Jobs for veterans
-Unemployment
-Administration efforts
-Training
-Department of Veterans’ Affairs responsibility
-Johnson
-Blacks
-Qualifications for skilled jobs
-Training
-Department of Labor statistics
-Compilation
-Status
-Comparison to disadvantaged United States’ citizens
-Minority hiring
-President’s policy
-Classification of veterans
-Vietnam veterans
-Department of Labor
-George Meany, James D. Hodgson, and George P. Shultz
-Hospital facility
-Samuel W. Yorty and [Name unintelligible]
-California earthquake
-Resolution on jobs for veterans
-Creation of jobs for categories
-President’s position
-Preferences
-Classifications
-President’s policy
Holt and Rainwater left at 1:38 pm
Johnson’s efforts
Legislation
-Jobs for veterans
-White House statement
-Public relations
-California
-Johnson
Colson, Haig, and Johnson left at an unknown time before 1:39 pmTranscript (AI-generated)
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Cite this conversation
Conversation 452-014, February 19, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417175913). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/452-014 (accessed November 2, 2026).