On February 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Cooper Holt, Chief Herbert R. Rainwater, Donald E. Johnson, Charles W. Colson, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:09 pm and 1:39 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 452-014 of the White House Tapes.
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I don't know
I intended to, compared to you, suggest...
You can't do what you do.
You can't do what you do.
You can't do what you do.
I was just talking to all the other city, some of our country people, about the 1966, which of course is not played by our military, but we thought it was too funny to come out and handle that.
Do you think how much is happening now with the southeast east?
One of the things that concerned me, as you know, with the trip was the
Yeah, let's just put that thing on.
If there were another place that we could go in for a drop or anything, we could do it if we had any at the moment.
Well, I have all the quotients up.
They only missed by probably 30 days.
Are you going to say?
But you know they can tell.
Well, I know if you haven't made it to television, sometimes it's... Yeah, I know.
I know that it's not reliable.
But we know they didn't.
They were there.
Well, because we all sat down to cry a little bit, and we didn't make it, but it was a great thing.
I suppose I have the leakage of 16 hours.
They're military, they're men, they're ambassadors.
Our people are the people.
People are convoking people.
Those who probably will talk quite a bit more than what you sound like.
Everything we've done in this country, you have tried us first.
has taken to life.
They're frozen.
Absolutely.
And you can accomplish this.
I don't have to believe her.
If you agree to offer this job, in exchange for the Christmas, that you will get the Christmas.
Not unless you're gay or something else.
But what they're going to say to you, I think,
is that we met when you started assisting South Vietnam on a terrorist attack a while ago.
Now all I have to do is get out of Indochina, out of that, and out of Laos.
So I think, I think that we must, and I have said this a time and again, we must stay there.
Now we have done all of the things about de-escalation and de-escalation we said we were going to do.
You're on schedule.
In fact, you're ahead of your own schedule.
We have now given a set of R.I.O.
pieces.
Thank you.
You almost said it, thank you.
Well, I see we will.
All right.
Good.
All right.
Well, I see we will.
All right.
We've got a really little habit by the end.
By the time I get to the airport, I'm going to be fine.
I don't know how many times they've got to know about that tonight.
And who knows, I'll shoot you another day.
It's all based on what the press and I didn't rule out.
But, uh, it's all good.
We still got our luck.
We know that the parents won't know it.
Just let those clowns know that we have trouble with this country because we keep telling people what we're not going to do.
We've got to let them know we might do a few things.
Now I've said at the interview that you can't believe that you have certainly slowed down four-fold casualties by going into Cambodia.
I think this is a tremendous thing.
I think this is absolutely right what you're doing now.
Of course, it's too bad that's out there.
I don't have a patent.
There's just way more of it going on the trail.
But, yeah, it's going to be great.
I think you have a say in it.
Now, we've done these things.
Now, your next move is up to you.
I would think, Mr. President, maybe the first thing would be to call the Pharisees on it.
Just saying that, Frank.
You may have...
Did you notice what I said the other day, that honey was running out?
Yes, I did.
As far as people ask, I don't know if it goes well.
But let me say, I'm glad to get your view, and we'll...
I don't think they'd like to get a question this way.
And he gets on board, right?
And all of a sudden, he's like, yes, all right.
So I know I'm not going to be on the front, but let me tell you that you, that it does not just please me.
And so we understand.
Well, I think that the only way we will ever achieve this, man, I think that this big event that I'll do is over.
I think that's one thing.
Well, I'm over it.
But I think that now we have a big amount of business.
And then if you take it out of your pocket, then I will open my other options, and your options have always been to let my phone out when you finish the whole thing, and that's great.
Take that hill of dust or complex out that they're dragging, that they're building back down, and all that stuff.
And then take out the diaper and go, leave a part of it.
Take out a part of it and then say, can I bring in the rest?
And I realize this places you in,
Let's get rid of that.
We cannot fail to do what was necessary to get American men back.
What is it really?
What is it really?
What is it really?
What is it really?
but it's going to be more subtle and probably more important.
The reason that many of them are not speaking about Laos is that Cambodia worked, right?
They don't worry now.
They are afraid that Laos won't work.
And we hope it does.
So do you think that has a lot to do with it?
You know, we don't know.
They always want to come up on the roads.
I noticed that there wasn't an expansion in their seasons.
I don't know if my daughter comes out today.
Center, we're seeing World War 3.
Everything versus World War 3.
Everything versus World War 3.
Everything versus World War 3.
Everything versus World War 3.
Uh, we, uh, what is this when you send it off?
It's my hat.
It's my hat.
It's my hat.
It's my hat.
It's my hat.
It's my hat.
It's my hat.
It's my hat.
It's my hat.
It's my hat.
Laos will go.
Thailand will go.
Tennessee will go.
The Philippines will go.
The Philippines, I am very worried about.
If you go to the Philippines this year, definitely take a hard look at that.
Come back.
This thing, all right, take a hard look at it.
Don't just say, well, there are people here.
But that place is in trouble.
Real trouble.
And, you know, if they just, if that's why it's, you know, you've got to leave the internal system.
The Iraqis will take it over, and then the
We've got two black releases that knocked the hell out of the government this weekend.
Who is it?
My God.
All of us.
You guys.
Who wants peace?
Who wants to see a change?
You know how it is.
You've seen people.
People we know.
That's what it's all about.
You know, the industry's getting to it.
There's no reflection on it.
But a lot of these people are shouting about us for peace.
Haven't seen much more.
You know, Senator, can I ask one last question?
He said, you know, he didn't show those students.
I mean, he would refuse to see those students.
I would refuse to serve.
How can a mysterious candidate or president say that he would break the laws of the United States in such a season?
Well, it's a time to really think through the books.
Also, if you were to take a look at this, what would your suggestion be?
Well, let me tell you what our plan is.
I want to do one of the conventions this year and one next year.
Now, we can't determine the time.
That's a later, but I think you should know it.
See, I just want to do the least mentions of the thing.
If I want to do one of them, we are competing to do yours this year or the least this year and one next year.
Well, let me tell you what I had.
to, uh, people here this year to do their sanctions since I've been there for it since you see I did your award last year.
That's right.
I'm not gonna do them all, but you know what I'm gonna do, Johnny.
You guys have another time to get here, but you want to help me, Johnny, because we have the women and can give you the entire audience instead of just the men.
Yeah.
That'll be in the house.
I mean, about 5,000, 6,000 people could probably do all of this.
We're doing better.
We're doing better.
We're doing better.
We're doing better.
We're doing better.
We're doing better.
We're doing better.
We're doing better.
They don't want them.
They don't want them.
They don't want them.
They don't want them.
They don't want them.
They don't want them.
They don't want them.
Then we can go.
So we gave permission and they got over.
Well, you know, they don't have the effect to go on anymore or whatever it is.
I don't know, but they just can't work it.
So, uh, can't work it.
They're all getting an accident.
Well, thank goodness.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
but it's a fact of life at the present time
and also as it connects with life, that people who are of the same color, the same religion, the same national background, black, Indian, the same, was that why you got into this movie?
Because I don't care if you're a Catholic or a veteran, or an Italian or a veteran, or a Jewish or a veteran, I don't care if you're a Christian or a Christian, but if you had, if you're right now, if you're a Christian,
And this is what it is now.
I can't do it.
I can't do it.
I think it's very bad.
You've got to get work done.
I hope they're working on this.
The problem with the riot, as you know, is that there will be the black veterans.
Oh, we're not going to do that.
We're not going to do that.
We're not going to do that.
which is something that costs an awful lot of money.
If they have a wall that seems small,
Then we can't cut the regular back-end salary.
All draft fees will have to be paid back the same amount of time.
It will be staggering in cost transfer rates.
Secondly, I believe the first people we will infuse into the service will be the lower income and the lower off-season, like the Clown Army.
We'll get a push in our business of 30%.
And I feel that this is a good balance, but again,
Do not allow him to comment.
It's better that he stands in the back.
You may be on your back seat.
Call the warden.
Do not fight with your warden.
I don't know if anybody put any other assignment in there.
I reckon I could call Jerry Laird if you brought a job to him.
He knows it's strong.
But, the case, the annulment of the indiscriminate court is not released.
I'm trying to figure out a way to subject the person who said, I don't believe in something.
I'm denying any quarter.
There you go.
A birthright.
What do you call a birthright?
A foreign one.
And my mother and I couldn't go to her work too well.
I got into it as a parade, and I just didn't know how to do it.
But I put it in a CD-ROM with no problem.
Today, I'm sorry to say, there's a lot of people who are joining the Franchise Group, as we call it, who did it because all of us agreed in a way not to get anything.
And now we have all these clubs saying, well, I'm not going to introduce the group against war.
Welcome to Helmholtz Network.
Here's an out-of-burner.
Don't even think about it.
Well, on that, you see, the problem is, if you go on, whether or not you can get people
uh, with the draft, whether the draft really is going to work or not, with the, all the polls are down, and she hasn't had a problem with it, so we're, I'd rather go this way.
One, what we have to do is to pull the line, and we'll agree that we can guarantee that Kennedy will be better qualified
of life for people in the meantime armed services.
They didn't have to go in there to bring a sacrifice.
That's two hands at work.
Then take a look at this thing to see how it evolves.
I know in this universe you might not have an awful lot of people who would be proud of being here.
You've got to make people proud of where you are.
You've got to make people proud of the image that you have.
You've got to make people proud of where you are.
That's why I have another very funny video that I'm going to be building right now.
I guess it was the war.
No question about it.
The way people are talking and blood counting.
It's cool, Rob.
It's cool now.
People are happy.
America's becoming a more thoughtful nation through the last year that I've been here.
I think it will be exciting.
We've talked about it over the years.
Because we always have problems.
We've a lot of problems.
And we won't stop until next year.
One of the things I feel about Chicago City, I think maybe there may be some legislation
to provide and make the temporary retirement for all of these fellows that always bring them in under different categories.
Mark and Blanton Hall, you need to get 60% disabled so that whatever they contracted over there, you can get them to do it.
We don't know about the children on the medical records who take care of them.
And as far as the controls start to build, we have a few of these fellows come out as they're unloaded and get sent off to the hospital.
I'll be here if that goes to better shape.
What we've done is take a look at how this agency is going to see the townships and other towns.
And you can see over here to our, you know, it's a great call.
We did it in March.
Our instinct is to tell John that you and I have talked.
I want you to give him every idea you've got.
He's a real, you know, a whole guy.
He's a, he's a, he's a patriot.
And he's, uh, I told him to come up with a new idea every week.
What if it's, uh, less bankruptcy, our congressional board, you know?
Oh, that's great.
And that's why we would like to have you say, like, I said, come up with a new idea.
We might want to be able to do that.
But, uh, you know, the way we work is,
these dinners, the ones I don't do these to do.
I've had them a year ago.
Uh, now, uh, the, uh, who else?
But that's just how we'll have sort of a quiet understanding.
We'll try to be rehearsed as you have.
And then I'll be the region's secretary.
Fair enough.
We'll send them.
We'll send them and do it then.
And they're on the year.
Great.
Some of you will know all the things that you're announcing around that way, and I will not believe you.
That's fine.
Because I try to see what we can't keep.
Well, you are.
You're very good at it.
And all those people can't remember everybody else.
I understand.
We aren't going to accept that too much.
But...
I don't need to point out the jobs for that.
That's good.
We must go through very fast on it because we're mining at 10, 12, 14% on the bottom of it.
I've got to talk about this.
It's also a good job.
It's a good job to respond to this very thing I have on the business world around America.
Uh, but we're doing a lot of job, uh, interest on the job.
I mean, just anything you can bring to us.
Donna, uh, you gave your responsibility on this one.
Were you giving the, uh, getting one of your men at the highest level to say that I, uh, reported that program?
and all right to deliver to some of these business people there.
And it's exciting.
We were terribly strong.
We thought this was going to be good.
And when we came back after the war, we were all very kind.
They all got insurance pretty well.
But hell, I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
And these days, it's just terrible.
We're going to find in our probably can't look back through it.
We're going to find a lot of blacks that didn't have a CO, and they won't have one when they come back.
They're the ones that were dumping on the market.
We're going to have to look very carefully into this job training programs and disadvantage and make sure that it's all available to the public.
We're going to get the pictures of how many clients we send to the White Server in Chicago.
Yes, sir.
The real problem, and I want to add to that, but the real problem is the Department of Labor and they skipped laying down the support.
I'm concerned that they won't have offices.
You know, we've got many employment representatives in every state and the city and so forth.
And they've been doing a good job over the years.
But they're not doing a good job.
No, no, no.
They're out in the farm labor.
They're not employment representatives.
They do a good job, but my point is this.
And we've been in contact with them.
And all they've done is better than anybody.
They have power over there on their computers and so forth in the state.
I want the environment to be treated equally with the difference in the minorities.
And then if we're gonna use a black veteran, we'll get a yellow one, which is okay, but the veteran is gonna get, I do not want them over there, I want the same personnel, the same emphasis, and everything.
Because we would like to bring in people here to talk, to hire a black sign, all for that, and then the bank can wipe us or anything else, but let it be.
But the veteran's gotta come back to these guys, you know, we'd like to have people that didn't go,
They're sitting around here at, like, Clover, and these two-and-a-half Americans want to serve their country by golly, they're going to be there.
May I ask you a little bit, Mr. President, that this committee cannot
Uh, speak to the Ministry of Air and the Piper that says a job in Vietnam that they told them they can't do this.
All right.
Is that true?
Yes.
Yeah.
right this is uh
I had a call, I talked to Yuri out there, and they, uh, Brian at the water guard and the rest, they did a great job here and out there, and, uh, part of what I'm certainly good at is that should we rebuild that one, we could have rebuilt it as it was necessary, and I'm ready to tell you what we can, and we can't hold on to that following it.
What I'm worried about, sir, is that there are other reasons why we didn't have any areas of movement in here, but I'm not asking you to do that.
I'm just trying to help you with that.
uh... uh...
Thank you.
This is hard to make a job.
They don't allow them to treat jobs for veterans in a separate category.
I'm not better.
I'm not better.
I'm not better.
We're here to help you out with one of the priorities, but we want to know why you want to leave on a vacation.
There's already a location.
And, uh, the legacy is against the memories.
Because a lot of veterans in the army, they try to get out of service.
I mean, like you said.
All right.
What you worked on, what you're going to do is just hang on until we can put you through the rest of your second time.
I'm going to have to leave it to you.
Please, brother.
Thank you.
You know, I agree with you.
You've got to bring it to the end of the day.
I know that's not the best, but I want to tell you, we've got to pay back, and you've got to find jobs.
We should make some kind of decision on what we're going to do about these patients who were killed.
We may be coming to the federal court any time, but we know the Congress is going to introduce some bills, and they wouldn't let them jump on you.
Yeah.
uh... uh...