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Conversation 453-003

TapeTape 453StartFriday, February 19, 1971 at 4:00 PMEndFriday, February 19, 1971 at 4:05 PMTape start time00:39:02Tape end time00:44:05ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Black, Melia;  Southall, Pamela;  Black, Orville;  Black, Hilary;  Manarin, Rosemary;  Fountain, Betty;  White House photographerRecording deviceOval Office
AudioNARA Description

On February 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Melia Black, Pamela Southall, Orville Black, Hilary Black, Rosemary Manarin, Betty Fountain, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:00 pm to 4:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 453-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 453-3

Date: February 19, 1971
Time: 4:00 pm - 4:05 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Melia Black, Pamela Southall, Orville Black, Hilary Black, Rosemary
Manarin, and Betty Fountain; the White House photographer was present during the meeting

     Introductions

     [General conversation]

     Presentation of gifts

     Manarin

Black, et al. left at 4:05 pm
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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I did.
Mr. President?
Well, hello there.
Are you?
What's your name?
Hillary.
What's your first name?
Hillary.
Well, Hillary, that's a pretty name.
Thank you.
And this is?
Julia.
And you're?
Yes.
Really?
Yes.
You're Bill?
Orville.
Orville, right.
You're married.
She's from the State Department.
Oh, yes.
How are you?
You're from the State Department?
Oh, that's fine.
Who's having all those trips?
Most amazing things.
And you're Bob Brown?
Yeah.
Yeah?
Right.
Well, I was going to say, when I saw that your great-grandmother, or grandmother, great-grandmother,
When I saw him 90 years ago, the age, one of the wonderful things he was doing, put out a little smoke shop.
At that age, I was, I mean, I know I have my mother-in-law's sister, my mother-in-law, my mother-in-law's sister, 75.
And she, like all her acquaintances, at 75 years of age, she went out and spent time with her husband and all things.
And they went there to do work with on the medical side.
And I thought that was about as high as they could get to.
Here's a 92-year-old man, so that's a wonderful example.
But he is young.
He's full of it.
Well, I think they did that.
Sure.
Here.
Oh, yeah.
Give me a light.
What?
Give me a light.
Give me a light.
Here, pal.
I'll go to the mine.
I'll tell you how to get there.
Now, let's get a picture here.
Each of you are getting a pin.
This is the presidential pin.
You've already done it.
I mean, go.
Get your ass out there.
Are you?
Let me get your name straight.
Orville.
Orville.
O-R-V-E-L.
Okay.
There you go.
Now let's see, how would I make it, how would you set this picture up?
Put the little ones, the smaller ones, you know, right next to each other.
Done, that's it.
Now, they're gonna come look out at this group.
They're gonna go and smile at you, be real big.
Okay.
Thank you.
All right, just send me a copy of that, real quick.
You want this, oh, of course.
Now let's get your name back.
That's right.
That's what I'm saying.
Back in the mall, when you started fishing, back in the mall.
All right, fine.
President, this is Bob Brown, Secretary of Defense.
Oh, yes, yes, of course.
And if you'd like a shot, come on, shoot your picture.
Come on over here.
Me too.
Now we'll get the two of you together.
And we'll give you presents for the very good.
Only special visitors can have them.
Goodbye.
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