Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 453-004
Date: Friday, February 19, 1971 at 4:06 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Romas, Ronald C.; McQuaig, Linda; Wilson, Glenn; Morris, Jay; Abate, Joseph; Odle, Robert C., Jr.; White House photographer
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/453-004

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[0:00] Mr. President, Mr. Chairman.
[0:18] Yes, I know, how are you?
[0:18] Nice to see you.
[0:19] Nice to see you.
[0:19] And Jay Morris, the chairman of this year's school.
[0:28] And Joe Obate, who is the college representative.
[0:33] All right, I'll tighten up.
[0:50] He better be good.
[1:01] One of the great things.
[1:08] When you see the pictures, I'll be terrible.
[1:14] Well, you're having a good meeting.
[1:15] Very good, yeah.
[1:15] Oh, gosh.
[1:16] They come in from all over the country.
[1:23] All 50 states.
[1:25] That's great.
[1:26] Including Alaska and the like.
[1:28] and even mississippi with no republican officials since there's two delegates up here well that's great that's great i hope the spirit is good
[1:46] So far.
[1:51] National Chairman Senator Dole started it off.
[1:55] Yeah.
[1:55] And Dalton Rose, and we had Senator .
[1:56] Good, good.
[1:57] Senator Del.
[1:58] Senator Del.
[1:59] Yeah.
[1:59] Senator Brown, Donald Rumsfeld.
[2:00] They've all appeared.
[2:01] Rumsfeld will be the one.
[2:04] Yeah, these have all appeared so far.
[2:08] Yes, sir.
[2:08] Senator Brock will be here tomorrow night.
[2:21] Senator Bell hit that very hard today.
[2:24] He did a very good job.
[2:29] I know that works good, but I think that I would like to have Roy go over with the chart that he used for the congressional breakfast.
[2:38] John Irvin, head of the domestic council.
[2:41] You see, I had breakfast for all the Democrats and all the Republicans.
[2:48] Thank God you eat breakfast.
[2:49] But anyway.
[2:49] This, and you can all make notes on it, we'll give you the charts too, is fascinating.
[2:59] It shows you all the interests of the opponents of Revenue and Share.
[3:01] This is Revenue and Share.
[3:02] That's some flavor of it.
[3:03] This is down our alley.
[3:04] But you've got to have the arguments.
[3:05] Why the Mills approach won't work.
[3:07] Why this helps, which it does.
[3:09] The hard-line mistakes.
[3:11] It really does.
[3:12] But if he could give us an advantage, I think it would be great.
[3:20] And if I did reorganize the consolidation of the cabinet... Not specifically, no, sir.
[3:25] Well, ask John to get revenue sharing and the cabinet consolidation bold if he could.
[3:30] Would you have one for him?
[3:35] Oh, yes.
[3:35] What would you need to keep an eye on?
[3:41] What would you need to keep an eye on?
[3:46] Well, you work on this.
[3:48] You must have this.
[3:49] This is terribly important that you get this, not just the sales pitch, but you know why.
[3:54] And he gives you all the arguments.
[3:56] Why do you have how much money?
[3:57] what states would suffer by the other programs.
[4:10] If you go back, you really haven't had any of this stuff.
[4:13] You just don't want to hear the straight record.
[4:15] I think you've got to have the arguments.
[4:16] The arguments that we'll give you, and also the best literature we've got.
[4:19] That's stuff that really sets it out in one, two orders.
[4:24] Now, let's see, what are we giving you today?
[4:38] Oh, yeah, we're going to give you tie hands if you'd like.
[4:40] That's a presidential tie.
[4:40] I'm not sure.
[4:40] I'm not one of those women's lawyers.
[4:42] Thank God.
[4:42] My daughter, David, David Eisenhower.
[4:49] and say, stop it, too.
[4:51] He says, I said, I hope they stop at none.
[4:59] That's what you would say.
[5:04] Tell everybody to go over there.
[5:07] You all were in the room before?
[5:10] You were, that's right.
[5:14] Yeah, well, I'll tell you one more thing.
[5:15] President Siegel is at the top, you see.
[5:16] And this drug, and this was next to Manny Pate, and we came in, duplicates the seal.
[5:18] That's the famous feature of this drug.
[5:19] That's one of the great paintings of Washington that is very little known.
[5:33] It's painted not by one of the Peale sons, but by a father.
[5:35] And it's an unusual kind.
[5:37] There's the White House in 1827, or 1837, a great department.
[5:41] When the river used to be, at least they thought, closer than that, closer than that.
[5:46] It's not photographed, but it was sort of a British thought going to buy it, I would say.
[5:48] And the...
[5:48] The other thing is that you all have historical significance.
[6:01] We always put state gifts over here.
[6:09] See what we've got over here this time.
[6:11] This is from the President of the Council of Ministers.
[6:13] See whenever they give us something, we give them.
[6:17] All right.
[6:22] Thank you, Senator.
[6:31] I have to go with, or I don't know.
[6:35] I'm going to take this.
[6:41] I'm going to go upstairs while they move.
[6:41] But you can't do that.
[6:42] I don't know.
[6:42] I don't know.
[6:43] I don't know.