{"conversationCode":"455-009","tapeNumber":455,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-455-009","startDateTime":"1971-02-22T17:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-02-22T17:45:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Feb-1971","startTime":"12:41 PM","endDate":"22-Feb-1971","endTime":"12:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Udall, James; Chotiner, Murray M.; Parker, David N.; Price, Raymond K., Jr.; White House photographer;","description":"On February 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, James Udall, Murray M. Chotiner, David N. Parker, Raymond K. Price, Jr., and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:41 pm to 12:45 pm. 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Acker\n           -Lydia [surname unknown]\n\nUdall, et al. left at 12:45 pm","filename":["455-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:23:10","tapeEnd":"03:27:10","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Udall, James","Chotiner, Murray M.","Parker, David N.","Price, Raymond K., Jr.","White House photographer"],"prevCode":"455-008","nextCode":"455-010","transcript":[{"start":3.85,"end":32.93,"text":"Well Jim, how are you?"},{"start":32.95,"end":33.39,"text":"Well Jim, how are you?"},{"start":33.41,"end":33.85,"text":"Well Jim, how are you?"},{"start":33.83,"end":51.32,"text":"No, I haven't."},{"start":51.34,"end":51.96,"text":"I haven't read poker for years."},{"start":51.98,"end":52.56,"text":"I just went to this one time."},{"start":52.58,"end":53.16,"text":"I got a few dollars together."},{"start":53.18,"end":54.52,"text":"But Jimmy is running a business around his underworld and politics."},{"start":54.54,"end":54.96,"text":"And he's a great man."},{"start":54.98,"end":55.48,"text":"And I look forward to it."},{"start":60.68,"end":79.36,"text":"So, uh, just, you know, take a picture of us here by some place."},{"start":79.38,"end":81.72,"text":"We were the students again, so I could get out there and go out there next time."},{"start":81.74,"end":81.96,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":81.98,"end":82.82,"text":"Mac and, uh, yeah, Mac and, uh, and, uh..."},{"start":93.27,"end":114.01,"text":"You've never seen Timmy Stewart?"},{"start":114.03,"end":116.58,"text":"Timmy Stewart, I've seen him."},{"start":116.6,"end":116.96,"text":"He has a catapult."},{"start":116.98,"end":117.34,"text":"It's the old book."},{"start":117.36,"end":117.72,"text":"He's about 80 now."},{"start":117.74,"end":117.84,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":117.86,"end":118.06,"text":"I saw him."},{"start":118.08,"end":118.24,"text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":118.26,"end":119,"text":"We had a talk or something, you know."},{"start":119.02,"end":119.12,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":119.14,"end":119.38,"text":"He's very..."},{"start":119.4,"end":119.86,"text":"He remembers it longer."},{"start":119.88,"end":120.14,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":120.16,"end":120.82,"text":"Did you see that article in Life?"},{"start":120.84,"end":121.12,"text":"I didn't know."},{"start":121.14,"end":122.02,"text":"I did write it along, but I thought, my God."},{"start":122,"end":128.75,"text":"I'm not sure."},{"start":128.76,"end":129.03,"text":"I'm not sure."},{"start":130.42,"end":141.38,"text":"You're still flying."},{"start":141.41,"end":148.16,"text":"No, I sold my plane on the evening."},{"start":148.18,"end":148.6,"text":"I have to be there."},{"start":148.62,"end":149.5,"text":"There's your second child, like his brother."},{"start":149.52,"end":150.02,"text":"And I know you play golf."},{"start":150.04,"end":150.24,"text":"Excuse me."},{"start":150.26,"end":150.68,"text":"Here's the president."},{"start":150.7,"end":151.36,"text":"I'll never get out of this."},{"start":151.38,"end":151.84,"text":"I'm having a signature."},{"start":151.86,"end":152.16,"text":"Don't you dare."},{"start":152.19,"end":152.69,"text":"Oh, I don't use it."},{"start":152.71,"end":153.33,"text":"I don't think I'll get in that."},{"start":155.48,"end":171.8,"text":"Uh, well, how's, how's all the time going?"},{"start":171.82,"end":172.16,"text":"Everybody's fine."},{"start":172.18,"end":173.42,"text":"I have one great question that you're not supposed to make up."},{"start":173.44,"end":173.99,"text":"Yeah, that's what you want."},{"start":174,"end":174.26,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":174.28,"end":175.39,"text":"Sometimes you're going to have some in the White House."},{"start":175.41,"end":176.45,"text":"There's going to be a lot of people that you invite."},{"start":176.47,"end":177.03,"text":"I see a lot of great people."},{"start":177.05,"end":177.23,"text":"I'm sure."},{"start":177.25,"end":177.43,"text":"I'm sure."},{"start":177.45,"end":177.83,"text":"Is Rose here today?"},{"start":177.81,"end":193.71,"text":"Yes, it is."},{"start":193.73,"end":193.87,"text":"I know."},{"start":193.89,"end":194.25,"text":"You remember Rose?"},{"start":194.27,"end":195.03,"text":"I said, do you have a brother, Rosary?"},{"start":195.05,"end":195.15,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":195.17,"end":195.27,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":195.29,"end":196.21,"text":"Just go ahead and tell her it was a long time."},{"start":196.23,"end":196.61,"text":"She'd be delighted."},{"start":196.63,"end":197.35,"text":"I think she should come back to her."},{"start":197.37,"end":197.55,"text":"Oh, sure."},{"start":197.57,"end":198.33,"text":"It would be better if she didn't call."},{"start":198.35,"end":199.21,"text":"And we had Eden with us at the White House."},{"start":199.23,"end":199.51,"text":"We're kidding."},{"start":199.53,"end":199.94,"text":"We'll have you, too."},{"start":199.96,"end":200.6,"text":"You're not responsible for that."},{"start":200.62,"end":200.86,"text":"No, I'm not."},{"start":200.88,"end":201.74,"text":"You're straight up running into the desert."},{"start":201.76,"end":202.02,"text":"No, not that."},{"start":202.04,"end":202.32,"text":"It's not that."},{"start":202.34,"end":202.62,"text":"It's not that."},{"start":202.64,"end":203.5,"text":"I will invite you and Lydia for an evening."},{"start":203.52,"end":204.34,"text":"We have entertainment and certain things."},{"start":204.32,"end":226.4,"text":"That's what we did for service."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with James Udall, Murray M. Chotiner, David N. Parker, and Raymond K. Price, Jr. to exchange pleasantries and present commemorative gifts during a brief White House visit. The casual discussion touched on various social topics, including a recent Life magazine article, mutual acquaintances such as Jimmy Stewart, and personal updates. 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