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Frank, how are you?

Hello there.

Well, we're glad to see you.

Sorry to hold you up.

How are you?

I'm good.

I hope it didn't take you too long.

I'm trying to find a job at Russell.

I'm trying to work it out.

Well, how are you getting along?

You're retiring.

Do you have trouble with Russell Bill?

Well, we can't get a break.

about praying to the sun.

Yeah.

I'd like for you to call Art McClendon and offer it to him.

He won't pay it, but Art McClendon owns half of All Street on Betty.

Oh yes, and he's a, he loves it, and he's been down there a great deal, and he's the, as you know, smart as hell, and a great ambassador if you do it.

But let's just try it, just take a lost fire, just call him, just call him today, see what he says.

Yeah.

Call it.

Don't tell him to tell him.

If he takes it, we'll, we'll attend to him.

You just call him and, uh, if they need to go home, take it.

They'd be so lucky to get it.

But, uh, you just call him and say, now, hello, Clark.

And, uh, and so on.

Right out of the blue.

If, uh, if you were going to have to change your pastor or something, what are you doing?

And if he says no, then so does he have any suggestion?

Great.

Burt Cross would be great.

I imagine they have interests, well, at least that they know that part of the world.

300 knows almost every place.

Burt Cross, you know, he didn't ask for a darn thing, but there must be, there must be somebody around who's asked for something.

Yeah, don't give it away.

Well, that's it.

This should be an easy assignment for anybody who just knows it.

Any people would have to be nice to Gordon.

Why don't you give me a list of those that really want something, you know?

I thought I'd give you a list of the people, the most deserving people, who want to be ambassadors someplace.

Because I was curious, because the Flint letter is a great plan, and he would be a superb ambassador to that.

I didn't know if he had this kind of first connection to this.

Oh yeah, next to Bob Hogue is the wealthiest of the entertainers.

But second, he's got money in him.

He's an enormous business, a successful businessman.

He has about millions of haters in Australia.

So he owns it.

So in other words, he likes Australia.

And he's a great person.

I mean, smart as hell.

Yeah, that would be what he said.

Would you think so?

Yeah, he loved it.

But the Austrians would say, well, we're from North Carolina.

It was an American interview.

That was our country.

You know, Washington.

Great personality.

God, can you imagine how he'd go down there?

Of course, he'd not be asking.

Some personality.

You know, looking at Blake Letter, his age, he's 58 or not in that period.

I don't know.

just a couple years in Australia.

Down there, and he dropped out of the show a couple years, he said, anyway, you couldn't stay there too long.

Most people just kept running around, they didn't notice him.

I was telling him, they're very good, they're very good, and I like Falco.

He just seems to go on and on forever.

He won't quit, perhaps.

He'll probably quit right now.

I think he should quit.

He's at the top.

He should have quit about two years ago.

Do you think so?

Yeah.

Do you think it's a sale?

Not quite as good.

I think it's a sale, and they're starting to tear him apart.

Like that life story, life article, and all those guys.

John Wayne ought to get out now, too.

Get out, and they're out.

Well, uh, he is... You don't want to be a bachelor.

John Wayne should be a bachelor.

Why didn't you tell me?

Harlan wants to be a bachelor.

That's true.

He's sat here and won't say a word.

Yes, I have.

So he's building out for St. James.

I have.

He wants St. James.

I promised that to Cliff Hoyer seven years ago.

Cliff remembers.

Every time you forget.

You don't think you can still send Hoyer out there, do you?

Oh, God.

We're just going to have to work.

Well, I knew it was senility when we finally just couldn't send him in.

We locked him on three or four.

He wouldn't take us in.

But we're over that earth now.

It's done and it's too bad.

It's all over and it should be left that way.

He's in that shit.

He can't hurt me.

He can't hurt me here.

Yeah, that's right.

I'll tell you a guy that would be an awful good ambassador.

He went home.

He's a good ambassador right there.

Three would.

At this point.

Australia's one I hate to give away.

I don't know how to use this as a plumb for somebody.

My other hand, link letters.

No, but I meant, like a guy like Bert Cross, we don't really owe him.

He's your friend, but you don't really owe him anything.

We can do something.

We can use Bert Cross productively someplace.

Well, I told people to go to the list.

There must be a list of people that want him.

There are.

Does that auditor do it?

Well, what do you think?

I don't think he gets auditory confirmed, but I guess you're right.

Oh, no, that's right.

That's right.

To keep him with us.

By God, they've got a string in their hands.

They're responsible.

Well, we want the court for him, but nobody will die.

Tell us what you were doing.

Oh, I had to use one of the touch bases.

I was over-deaf.

Some of the...

A person regarding the farm guy, you know, he says no on high farming.

Don't you have tapes?

Don't you?

Now, the second point is, we, what do you think?

Well, we might try.

The other point is that

An awfully good man is our old friend Spitzer.

He's enthusiastic and loves the farmers and loves us.

He's enthusiastic.

That's good.

Somebody carries a pair of cracks at home, he's saying, no, he doesn't have any, you know, sales entities in the library.

He's an expert there.

He's a terrific expert.

He's an expert.

He's out there.

He's an expert.

You do need an expert here in the White House.

In the framework that I'm thinking about this position, let me try it.

Let me ask you this.

Would you mind going out and trying a patient, of course?

Well, that's a good question.

I'll share it with you, Mr. President.

I'm going to have a patient tomorrow.

I'm going to have a celebration.

Great.

And I'll hit him again.

He just went down.

I told you, of course, it's not the best stuff.

He said, I knew that you were something.

I forgot what he said the first time.

I didn't know he was a horse thief.

That's the way he started the conversation.

And I said, Paige, what was the trouble with that?

He said, hi, it's not a horse.

And we had a hell of an argument about that.

This was about three, four weeks ago.

We had a few talks with him.

And then he got in bed and started calling me.

He got Jared to call me.

And I just told Jared that he was an aggressive coward.

I said, that's all I'm saying to you.

You should just break the page.

Now, I don't think I can persuade Paige a second.

I think it needs to be forced on this ship.

We ought to see what that's like.

You and the party.

Looking ahead to next year is admirable.

There's no question of evidence.

The page keeps saying it's only 15 miles away from here to be used as control.

Clever.

Well, it's only 15 miles away from here to there, too, as I told you.

And he's got a man in the White House that way.

He's got his man.

He's awful about people, for granted.

He just clasps on to them and squeezes them out and won't let them go.

And he's always been like this.

But I will talk to him.

I'll talk also to Jerry and to Les and see if I can get them to... See, Jerry tried to make a name for himself in order to know his worth.

We tried to get it last year.

We're going all out on the agriculture thing.

We're going to go out and listen to them.

And we're going to put on a salute to agriculture.

A big dinner here.

I don't know if it's dinner or evening.

I think it's dinner.

The dinner will be about

What's your attitude toward facing people you don't know best?

I'm very careful, as we have in common.