{"conversationCode":"456-021","tapeNumber":456,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-456-021","startDateTime":"1971-02-23T21:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-02-23T21:09:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Feb-1971","startTime":"4:08 PM","endDate":"23-Feb-1971","endTime":"4:09 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On February 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:08 pm to 4:09 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 456-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 456-21\n\nDate: February 23, 1971\nTime: 4:08 pm - 4:09 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Ronald L. Ziegler\n\n     Media coverage\n         -Governors’ conference\n               -President’s appearance\n         -James D. Hodgson\n\nZiegler left at 4:09 pm","filename":["456-021.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:35:25","tapeEnd":"03:37:36","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"456-020","nextCode":"456-022","transcript":[{"start":0.42,"end":10.19,"text":"11 o'clock"},{"start":13.01,"end":23.45,"text":"I'm not going to request radio time."},{"start":24.15,"end":26.88,"text":"I'm going to say we'll be available for live radio."},{"start":26.9,"end":27.62,"text":"Live radio and television."},{"start":27.64,"end":27.78,"text":"No, no."},{"start":27.96,"end":28.64,"text":"And we'll do a clip of that."},{"start":28.82,"end":31.59,"text":"We'll do a clip of that and a clip of television."},{"start":31.61,"end":31.89,"text":"Okay, perfect."},{"start":31.91,"end":32.13,"text":"Fine, fine."},{"start":32.78,"end":42.86,"text":"I think that Governor's name was the way to handle that."},{"start":42.88,"end":46.85,"text":"Absolutely."},{"start":46.87,"end":50.31,"text":"We're confident that those voters stand for what is in the charging office."},{"start":50.34,"end":51.3,"text":"In the case of conviction in it, I'm using that."},{"start":51.32,"end":51.52,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":51.54,"end":51.9,"text":"I love that offer."},{"start":51.92,"end":53.46,"text":"I'm going to say, I'm going to make a phone call and say, I'm not using it."},{"start":53.48,"end":53.74,"text":"I'm using it."},{"start":53.76,"end":54.64,"text":"I'm not using it."},{"start":55.69,"end":69.22,"text":"How did the other day, how did the other day?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler coordinate the media strategy for the President’s upcoming appearance at the Governors’ conference. They discuss the logistics of radio and television coverage, specifically deciding against requesting formal radio time in favor of providing clips. Nixon also touches upon potential messaging regarding the political implications of a conviction to ensure the administration's stance is clearly communicated.","topics":["Media relations","Governors' conference","Public relations strategy","Television coverage","Political messaging"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T21:02:42.945Z"},"topicSlugs":["media-relations","governors-conference","public-relations-strategy","television-coverage","political-messaging"],"audioDurationSec":78,"audioFiles":[{"file":"456-021.mp3","bytes":1877680,"durationSec":78.16,"bitrate":192184,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:47.662Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/456-021.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/456-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/456/conversation-456-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}