{"conversationCode":"460-013","tapeNumber":460,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-460-013","startDateTime":"1971-02-26T18:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-02-26T18:14:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Feb-1971","startTime":"1:12 PM","endDate":"26-Feb-1971","endTime":"1:14 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Lias, Thomas L.; Dent, Harry S.; White House photographer;","description":"On February 26, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Thomas L. Lias, Harry S. Dent, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:12 pm to 1:14 pm. 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