Nixon White House TapesTape 461 › Conversation 461-013

Bull on Kenneth R. Lyons and White House logistics

Tuesday, March 2, 1971 · 1:07 PM–1:08 PM ET · Oval Office ·6 sec

Participants[Unknown person(s)];  Bull, Stephen B.Conversation461-013 onTape 461 (tape position 02:22:02–02:22:28)StartTuesday, March 2, 1971 at 1:07 PMEndTuesday, March 2, 1971 at 1:08 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 461-013 ↗

Stephen B. Bull met with an unidentified individual in the Oval Office to coordinate administrative details regarding the President's schedule. The brief discussion primarily focused on arrangements for a meeting with Kenneth R. Lyons. No major policy decisions were made during this logistical exchange.

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Or to his left, Kevin Williams.

On March 2, 1971, unknown person(s) and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:07 pm to 1:08 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 461-013 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 461-13

Date: March 2, 1971
Time: 1:07 pm - 1:08 pm
Location: Oval Office

An unknown man [Stephen B. Bull?] entered

     President’s schedule

          -Kenneth R. Lyons meeting

The unknown man [Bull?] left at an unknown time before 1:08 pm
  • 049-002 12:44 PM — unknown person(s) met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:44 pm and 1:07 pm.
  • 461-012 12:53 PM · 14 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Peter Heltemes, Jack Heltemes, Mrs. Jack Heltemes, Jack Heltemes, Jr., Holly Heltemes, Robert J. Dole, Robert Young, Mrs. Robert Young, David N. Parker, and George Bill met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:53 pm and 1:07 pm.
  • 049-008 1:07 PM — Unknown person(s) met in the Cabinet Room of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 1:07 pm on March 2, 1971 and 8:32 am on March 8, 1971.
  • 049-010 1:07 PM — Unknown person(s) met in the Cabinet Room of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 1:07 pm on March 2, 1971 and 8:32 am on March 8, 1971.
  • 049-011 1:07 PM — a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 1:07 pm on March 2, 1971 and 8:32 am on March 8, 1971.
  • 461-014 1:08 PM · 16 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Kenneth R. Lyons, Charles W. Colson, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:08 pm to 1:23 pm.
  • 461-015 1:27 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:27 pm and 1:35 pm.
  • 461-016 1:27 PM · 2 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:27 pm and 1:35 pm.

Conversation 461-013, March 2, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/461-013 (accessed September 18, 2026).