{"conversationCode":"462-004","tapeNumber":462,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-462-004","startDateTime":"1971-03-05T13:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-03-05T13:30:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Mar-1971","startTime":"8:08 AM","endDate":"5-Mar-1971","endTime":"8:30 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)]; Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On March 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:08 am and 8:30 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 462-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 462-4\n\nDate: March 5, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 8:08 am and 8:30 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with an unknown person\n\n     Call to H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n\nThe President talked with Haldeman\n\n     Nelson A. Rockefeller\n          -Possible press briefing\n                -Revenue sharing\n          -Call from Haldeman\n          -Possible press briefing\n\n                -Possible appearance by President","filename":["462-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:33:10","tapeEnd":"00:34:06","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"462-003","nextCode":"462-005","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":7.04,"text":"I had an idea."},{"start":7.78,"end":14.47,"text":"Why don't we use Rocky to go out to the press and give this thing a whack?"},{"start":14.77,"end":20.54,"text":"Urban Revenue sharing."},{"start":20.56,"end":20.84,"text":"You know what?"},{"start":20.86,"end":21.1,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":21.48,"end":21.58,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":23.82,"end":37.24,"text":"He may be calling you, and he said he had come, I told him to come anytime now, but he didn't come this morning."},{"start":37.56,"end":38.24,"text":"He could give a ring."},{"start":38.26,"end":38.8,"text":"Why didn't you call him up?"},{"start":38.82,"end":39.5,"text":"Here's what I had in mind."},{"start":39.52,"end":40.32,"text":"I said, maybe I'll just go out with him."},{"start":40.34,"end":41.4,"text":"You're going to push me just back here on this piece."},{"start":41.42,"end":47.13,"text":"You know what I mean?"},{"start":47.15,"end":50.25,"text":"You know what I mean?"},{"start":50.27,"end":50.49,"text":"Okay, fine."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman discuss a strategy to utilize New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller to publicly advocate for the administration’s urban revenue sharing initiative. The President considers joining Rockefeller for a press briefing to bolster the proposal’s profile. They agree that Haldeman should coordinate with Rockefeller to arrange his involvement in promoting the policy.","topics":["Nelson A. Rockefeller","Revenue sharing","Public relations","Urban policy","Press briefings"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T21:10:14.705Z"},"topicSlugs":["nelson-a-rockefeller","revenue-sharing","public-relations","urban-policy","press-briefings"],"audioDurationSec":50,"audioFiles":[{"file":"462-004.mp3","bytes":1213125,"durationSec":50.48,"bitrate":192254,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:47.662Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/462-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/462-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/462/conversation-462-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}