{"conversationCode":"462-006","tapeNumber":462,"conversationNumber":6,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-462-006","startDateTime":"1971-03-05T15:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-03-05T15:20:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Mar-1971","startTime":"10:15 AM","endDate":"5-Mar-1971","endTime":"10:20 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On March 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:15 am and 10:20 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 462-006 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 462-6\n\nDate: March 5, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 10:15 am and 10:20 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with Henry A. Kissinger\n\n     Previous meeting\n          -Richard M. Helms\n               -Positions\n               -President’s view","filename":["462-006.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:18:56","tapeEnd":"02:19:44","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"462-005","nextCode":"462-007","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":12.37,"text":"I thought it was very important to have a picture on this now, who he's working for."},{"start":12.39,"end":24.25,"text":"So this, because he's with us, I think some of these are all good, you know, they're really worrying me, and they should worry all of us, and looking to work on them."},{"start":24.27,"end":24.83,"text":"Don't you agree?"},{"start":24.85,"end":30.37,"text":"And he'll talk now, he'll speak right up around these discounts, because he is a loyal follower."},{"start":30.39,"end":30.49,"text":"Good."},{"start":31.69,"end":32.97,"text":"Good."},{"start":32.99,"end":33.9,"text":"It's okay, honey."},{"start":33.92,"end":34,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Henry Kissinger discuss the allegiances and perceived loyalty of CIA Director Richard Helms following a prior meeting. Nixon expresses concern regarding the internal dynamics of the intelligence agency and emphasizes the necessity of having a clear understanding of where Helms’s loyalties lie. The conversation concludes with Kissinger confirming that Helms has become a more reliable and forthright proponent of the administration’s objectives.","topics":["Richard Helms","Central Intelligence Agency","Loyalty","Administration internal dynamics","Intelligence community oversight"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T21:10:26.383Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-helms","central-intelligence-agency","loyalty","administration-internal-dynamics","intelligence-community-oversight"],"audioDurationSec":34,"audioFiles":[{"file":"462-006.mp3","bytes":825050,"durationSec":34.32,"bitrate":192346,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:47.662Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/462-006.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/462-006","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/462/conversation-462-006","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}