{"conversationCode":"463-003","tapeNumber":463,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-463-003","startDateTime":"1971-03-08T22:38:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-03-08T22:41:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Mar-1971","startTime":"5:38 PM","endDate":"8-Mar-1971","endTime":"5:41 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 8, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:38 pm and 5:41 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 463-003 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 463-3\n\nDate: March 8, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 5:38 pm and 5:41 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull\n\n          -Donald H. Rumsfeld\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 5:41 pm","filename":["463-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:54:43","tapeEnd":"00:55:18","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"463-002","nextCode":"463-004","transcript":[{"start":2.34,"end":4.32,"text":"They're wrapped up in an office."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to briefly discuss matters pertaining to Donald H. Rumsfeld. The short exchange centered on Rumsfeld's current administrative arrangements and his activities within his office. No major policy decisions were recorded during this brief encounter.","topics":["Donald Rumsfeld","White House staffing","Presidential scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T21:12:08.904Z"},"topicSlugs":["donald-rumsfeld","white-house-staffing","presidential-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":5,"audioFiles":[{"file":"463-003.mp3","bytes":114101,"durationSec":4.69,"bitrate":194671,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:48.988Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/463-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/463-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/463/conversation-463-003","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}