Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 464-001 Date: Monday, March 8, 1971 at 12:06 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Kinsley, Daniel T.; Horton, Bill; Malek, Frederic V. Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/464-001 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] He was in a different category. [0:02] He isn't the greatest German, but he was in a different category. [0:05] That's right. [0:12] That's right. [0:16] But I would put, uh, the people I've named in that group. [0:22] John Dean, sure as hell goes in that group. [0:25] There's no question about it. [0:26] Dean is a health person, and we're not using him adequately, which is another thing. [0:28] That's what Fred's poking around. [0:30] I'd like to see the names of the eight guys that you've really got. [0:31] I've really got them. [0:31] I know that Colton's got it. [0:32] I know that, uh, [0:34] I have a couple of guys that I think have got it. [0:38] Some have got it in different ways. [0:41] Of course, I mean, some have it down one way, others have it the other way. [0:48] Well, like Timmons. [0:49] Timmons has got it in his own way. [0:50] You can't use him across the board. [0:52] Dan is another one that's damn good in a particular area. [1:04] And he is, that's all. [1:06] You can't put boys in that league. [1:08] No, well, I would put general political artists in. [1:11] That's right. [1:12] Well, there was a few exceptions you could, or maybe not northeastern, but you can midwest. [1:25] But he's still, he's the kind of guy you're talking about. [1:31] That's right. [1:32] He's a goer. [1:32] And yet we've got him sanctioned. [1:34] We are quite injured. [1:35] And he's right. [1:36] We're going below that because... [1:39] They had to guide it below, push the guys above. [2:01] They pushed them above, and also come 73, some of these guys had been . [2:03] . [2:03] . [2:03] . [2:03] . [2:03] . [2:03] . [2:03] . [2:03] . [2:03] Very good. [2:05] Has he met good people? [2:07] Well, he's got Nathan, and he's got Schlesinger, and he's got Rice, who are essentially his deputies. [2:11] Of course, he's losing Schlesinger. [2:14] That's not very good about him. [2:16] We got him.