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Conversation 465-004

TapeTape 465StartWednesday, March 10, 1971 at 9:51 AMEndWednesday, March 10, 1971 at 10:01 AMTape start time00:18:55Tape end time00:30:43ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Scott, John W.;  Hampton, Robert N.;  Endahl, Lowell J.;  McMillan, C. W.;  Butterbrodt, John E.;  Magdanz, Don F.;  Palmer, John;  Moos, Eugene;  Lederer, Robert;  Healy, Patrick;  Graham, Harry;  Gifford, Claude;  Willard, Devoe H.;  Sutherland, John I.;  Brinkley, Parke;  Frazier, Frank;  Goeppinger, Walter W.;  Toan, Charles;  Russell, Albert;  Andrews, Robert J.;  Harp, Elbert;  Jackson, Ralph T.;  Kirker, Lorraine;  Keppey, Roy B.;  [Unknown person(s)];  Bull, Stephen B.;  Nixon, Richard M. (President);  Scott, John W.;  Hampton, Robert N.;  Endahl, Lowell J.;  McMillan, C. W.;  Butterbrodt, John E.;  Magdanz, Don F.;  Palmer, John;  Moos, Eugene;  Lederer, Robert;  Healy, Patrick;  Graham, Harry;  Gifford, Claude;  Willard, Devoe H.;  Sutherland, John I.;  Brinkley, Parke;  Frazier, Frank;  Goeppinger, Walter W.;  Toan, Charles;  Russell, Albert;  Andrews, Robert J.;  Harp, Elbert;  Jackson, Ralph T.;  Kirker, Lorraine;  Keppey, Roy B.;  [Unknown person(s)];  Bull, Stephen B.Recording deviceOval Office
AudioNARA Description

On March 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John W. Scott, Robert N. Hampton, Lowell J. Endahl, C. W. McMillan, John E. Butterbrodt, Don F. Magdanz, John Palmer, Eugene Moos, Robert Lederer, Patrick Healy, Harry Graham, Claude Gifford, Devoe H. Willard, John I. Sutherland, Parke Brinkley, Frank Frazier, Walter W. Goeppinger, Charles Toan, Albert Russell, Robert J. Andrews, Elbert Harp, Ralph T. Jackson, Lorraine Kirker, Roy B. Keppey, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:51 am to 10:01 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 465-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 465-4

Date: March 10, 1971
Time: 9:51 am - 10:01 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John W. Scott, Robert N. Hampton, Lowell J. Endahl, C. W. McMillan,
John E. Butterbrodt, Don F. Magdanz, John Palmer, Eugene Moos, Robert Lederer, Patrick
Healy, Harry Graham, Claude W. Gifford, Devoe H. Willard, John I. Sutherland, Parke Brinkley,
Frank Frazier, Walter W. Goeppinger, Charles Toan, Albert Russell, Robert J. Andrews, Elbert
Harp, Ralph T. Jackson, Lorraine Kirker, Roy B. Keppey, and unknown men

     [General conversation]

     President’s message on Revenue Sharing for Rural Community Development
          -Briefing
          -Length
          -White House theater

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:51 am

          -Press briefing

     White House tour

     Rural problems
          -Priority for Nixon administration
          -President’s message to Congress

                    -Signing ceremony
             -Briefing
Scott, et al. left at 9:56 am; unknown men remained

           -A bill in Congress
                 -Opposition
                       -Position on revenue sharing
                       -Democratic governors                         Conv. No. 465-2
                                                                               465-3 (cont.)
                       -Administration efforts
                       -Minority groups
                 -Reorganization

The President and the unknown men left at 10:01 am
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Good morning, Mr. President.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Well, this is an American band, isn't it?
Well, yeah.
Well, most, most everybody does it.
Right, right, right.
Like that.
Right.
Good to see you.
You know, we're in on that.
Oh, right.
We're in on that.
Right.
Good.
Yeah, we're in on that.
You ever heard of John Carano?
Yes, of course.
Never heard of him.
Never heard of him.
Never heard of him.
Never heard of him.
Never heard of him.
Never heard of him.
Never heard of him.
Never heard of him.
Never heard of him.
Hey, you alright?
How's it going?
You bet.
I'm good, Mr. President.
We've heard a lot about you.
We've heard a lot about you, Mr. President.
That's one problem you have to deal with.
Yeah, right, right.
Perfect.
Is that right?
That's a little harder.
That's a little harder.
Well, I've already worked in it, but I think it's going to be a great pleasure to meet you soon.
They're out here in the state.
I'll meet you next Wednesday.
Right.
And next time out, we're going to be able to support a crop.
Oh, goodness.
Our needs.
Oh, I see.
Yes, yes.
We're going to have a lot more success.
We're going to have a lot more success.
We're going to have a lot more success.
We're going to have a lot more success.
The President of the United States, Admiral Russell S. Martin Luther King,
I know, I know
They're still selling it.
They're still selling it.
They're still selling it.
What's yours from Washington, D.C.?
I'm from Washington, D.C.
I'm from Washington, D.C.
And I kind of go, she's kind of, yeah, that's her life.
So I'm like, right, right, right.
Overpowering, right?
So I'm like, she's just like, you know what I'm saying?
So I'm like, right, right, right.
So I'm like, right, right, right.
So I'm like, right, right, right.
So I'm like, right, right, right.
So I'm like, right, right, right.
I see they all say hello to you.
Oh, that's the gentleman with the barber.
What are you going to talk to them about today?
You're just going to give them a general greeting, correct?
Yes, and we'll get the background of your message.
Oh, correct.
We're a golf gang.
Over at the theater.
So there was a pressure.
Yeah.
Is that what we're going to do, sir?
Yes.
Will these people sit in the press?
Is that right, Steve?
No, sir.
No, these people here, the attendees will be having a tour of the White House when you're reading the press.
You'll read the press first.
Then afterwards, these people get a special briefing.
So you'll read that first.
But they're going to take that for a tour of the White House and then put them in a theater.
Oh, so you've got the press.
You've got the press.
the idea that we've had our eyes on the cities and we should have and we aren't taking our eyes off this
You know, this phrase you use a few times about the nation as part of a nation's heart.
Yeah, I know.
But this really is true.
It's true.
It's true.
It's true.
It's true.
It's true.
to strengthen the nation's heart.
I think it's a good line.
I've heard that before.
Well, go ahead.
Our first bill is signed.
The bill will come to the board after everybody's done.
I don't think you'll agree to that.
I think it's going to be a nice little speech to do with this.
Are you going to talk about your experience with that line?
I think we could find a way to get around it.
Well, there is a way if we could be willing to write in the law some of the grandfathered laws without
in the making of a pastor, something of this kind.
I think we can, they're for revenue sharing.
But this, they're scared to death of it.
They're democratic governors and all of that.
And of course, this is the heart and soul of these land grants.
My first question for you is that, like you just said, it's the whole harvest that I'd like to hear.
I think we could.
I think if we did this, just did that much, and then I think we could bring them all the way around on the 300 square foot.
They're the kind of people that would be for the recognition.
And I think we'd give them a beat song when they're coming to the country.
It's very important to have them in the state of what Michigan State is one.
I think we should give them the whole public policy because every county in the country.
This is probably going to be the toughest of the states.
It will not.
It will not.
I cannot sell it.
I just said the right way to try and go out and do it.
It's all about being honest.
These fellows know their centers.
There is not enough office.
It's a minority group.
God, these departments.
The thing about the minority groups around here is they don't want to tell them.
that they were going to be held harmless with the statutory case that they made.
They're not going to lose.
They're not going to get it back.
They're not going to get it back.
That's right.
If you can do that with the excessive service, I think you'd be home.
I don't have any embarrassments from the organization.
I can talk this one to anybody, even if they're hostile, and do it.
I just thought it was not embarrassing.
I didn't want to do something else.
All right.
All right.
All right.
No, I'm glad you're here.
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