Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 465-011
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1971 at 1:37 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/465-011

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[3:41:03] Yes, I thought I'd put that out, you know, like tomorrow as a bill, but I just said, I don't know, 216, I think.
[3:41:22] But I wouldn't put the number, if nobody was 17, 216, and I raised the other guy to about 10%.
[3:41:35] I talked to Dr. Fletcher.
[3:41:43] Yes, sir.
[3:41:44] I told him I gave him three points to make, and I think he will make them.
[3:41:53] You've got to make them better.
[3:41:58] You know, this door thing, I want to do it again.
[3:42:01] where he says that Dr. Fletcher, when he talked to you, was a member of the President's Science Advisory Committee.
[3:42:11] I said, as a member of that committee, did you ever express a view negative to the ABM?
[3:42:16] He said, absolutely not.
[3:42:17] It was never expressed by the committee?
[3:42:19] It was never expressed by the committee.
[3:42:21] Oh, I heard a lot of them discuss the ABM.
[3:42:23] Right.
[3:42:23] He said we never discussed it.
[3:42:25] That's one point.
[3:42:26] And then the other point that he will make is he's never discussed it with you.
[3:42:30] Then the third point, I said, sir, I think you probably want to indicate that you support the ABM system.
[3:42:36] He said, well, what I intend to say is, number one, I have not been involved in any discussions on it.
[3:42:42] I don't know that much about it, but I support the president's decision on the ABM safeguard system.
[3:42:55] I would never let them bring it up, see, because I would never let them get involved in an actual security matter or anything like this.
[3:43:08] And they went up and went on the line to make me up.
[3:43:14] See if they were even intending to bring it up, considering
[3:43:25] Ms. Fletcher said they never did?
[3:43:32] Yes, he can't be remembered.
[3:43:33] He never sewed in his damn yacht.
[3:43:37] Never opened his yacht.
[3:43:39] And I would never put him in a job.
[3:43:42] I have taken a heart, and that's the one that has the heart line on it.
[3:43:48] I won't give him one inch.
[3:43:56] as well as the little flat ones.