Conversation No. 466-15

Date: March 11, 1971
Time: 5:18 pm - 6:17 pm
Location: Oval Office

Ronald L. Ziegler met with Frances Lewine, Helen A. Thomas, Sarah Booth Conroy, Betty
Beale, Wauhillau LaHay, Claire Crawford, Louise Hutchinson, Marya McLaughlin, and Fay G.
Wells

     [General conversation]

     Seating

The President entered at an unknown time after 5:18 pm

     Greetings

    Fire in fireplace
          -President’s previous meeting with Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] executives
                -Frank Stanton
                -Recollection of meeting with chairman of United States Information Agency
                      advisory board
          -Fireplaces in White House
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:18 pm

     Refreshment orders

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 6:17 pm

     Coffee
          -Sanchez’s ability
          -President and Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s preferences
          -Special blend

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     Photo arrangements

The photographer left at an unknown time before 6:17 pm
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Coffee
     -Mrs. Nixon’s preferences
     -Special blend and equipment

Tea
       -Americans’ ability to make tea

Diet                                                            Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.)
       -President
             -Compared with men in public life
             -Women
       -Cholesterol
             -Importance
             -Dwight D. Eisenhower’s heart attack
             -President’s doctor’s advice
                   -Eggs
       -Low-fat diet
       -President’s food preferences
             -President’s mother’s cooking
             -Mrs. Nixon’s cooking
             -Head of State dinners

Mrs. Nixon
     -Stamina
     -Weight
          -At first meeting
          -Currently
     -Dress size
          -President’s purchases in Hong Kong and Paris
     -Appearance
     -Food preferences

President
     -Food preferences
     -Today’s schedule
          -Meeting with John B. Connally and George P. Shultz
          -Williamsburg appearance
          -Lunch
                -Sanchez
                -Connally’s comment
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Mrs. Nixon
     -Appearance
     -Stamina
     -Public activities
     -Health
          -Compared with President’s
     -Schedule
          -Stamina                                           Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.)
     -Early life
          -Family
          -College
          -Effect
          -Family

Advice to youth

Mrs. Nixon
     -Influence on household
     -Influence on Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Tricia Nixon
     -Influence of early life

President
     -Goals for daughters
     -Law school experience
     -Work in library at Duke University
          -Effect
     -A quote by Mrs. Nixon
     -Family
          -Edward C. Nixon
          -President’s father and mother
     -Time with daughters

Mrs. Nixon as First Lady
     -Compared with Nixon as President
     -Interest in privacy
           -Beach at San Clemente
           -Window shopping in New York
           -[Name unintelligible]
     -Opportunities of position
           -Meeting people
                  -Receiving lines
           -Volunteer activities
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           -Trips
                -Peru
                -With President
                -1953 trip
                      -Asia
                            -Children’s homes
                            -Hospitals
           -As hostess of White House                       Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.)
                -Role
           -Travel
                -Press reports
                -Effect abroad
                -Effect of 1953 trip

Changes between 1960 and 1968
    -Wisdom of age
    -President’s time spent with Cox and J. N. Eisenhower

J. N. Eisenhower
      -Activities

Cox
      -Public events
      -CBS tour of White House
      -Campaign appearances

Daughters
    -Similarities and differences
    -Similarities to grandparents
    -Similarities to President and Mrs. Nixon

Mrs. Nixon
     -Birthday gift
     -Birthday celebration date
     -Nickname
     -Family background
     -Given name
     -Birth date
     -Father
           -Nickname for Mrs. Nixon
     -Mother’s death
     -Name
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     -Birth date, day of celebration
           -March 16, 1971 party
           -March 17, 1971 Head of State dinner
                 -Ireland
                       -Entertainment
     -Time with President
           -Camp David
                 -President’s schedule                          Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.)
                 -Bowling
                 -Walking
           -Florida and California
                 -Walking
                 -Golf
           -Camp David and Florida
                 -Family friends
           -Personal friends
                 -Roger E. Johnson
                 -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
                 -Robert H. Abplanalp
     -Consultation with President

Women’s liberation
   -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II

World leaders and wives
    -President’s State Department briefing books
          -Biographical sketches
    -Importance of wives
          -Public compared with private influence
          -Charles A. J. M. de Gaulle
                -Yvonne (Vendroux) de Gaulle’s influence on policy
    -[Anna] Eleanor Roosevelt and Franklin D. Roosevelt
          -President’s wartime experience
                -E. Roosevelt’s visit to Tontoua base in New Caledonia
                     -President’s impression
    -Lou (Henry) Hoover
          -President’s previous meeting
          -President’s membership on board of Whittier College
          -Compared with Herbert C. Hoover
    -Bess (Wallace) Truman
          -President’s previous visit with the Trumans
          -Truman piano
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         -Influence on Harry S Truman
     -Mamie G. D. Eisenhower
         -Compared with D. D. Eisenhower
         -President’s form of address of Eisenhowers
               -Formality

Family’s influence on President
     -Mrs. Nixon and daughters                                  Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.)
           -Role
           -Compared with White House staff as critics

Press influence on President
      -President’s view
      -Daniel L. Schorr story on Anti-ballistic Missile [ABM]
            -Inaccuracy
      -CBS
      -National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
      -American Broadcasting Company [ABC]
      -Schorr’s story on ABM
      -President’s attitude

Lyndon B. Johnson and John F. Kennedy and wives

Children in White House
     -Mrs. Nixon
           -Sensitivity
     -Jacqueline Lee Bouvier Kennedy [Onassis] and children’s visit to White House
           -Thomas’ story
     -Alice Roosevelt Longworth
           -President’s form of address
     -Kennedy children
           -President, Mrs. Nixon, J. N. Eisenhower, and Cox

Mrs. Nixon

Family dogs
     -King Timahoe, Pasha, Daisy
     -King
          -Sanchez
     -Limitations
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     First Ladies
           -Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson
           -E. Roosevelt, L. Hoover, B. Truman, M. G. D. Eisenhower, C. A. Johnson, J. L. B.
                 Kennedy, Mrs. Nixon
           -Influence on husbands

     Y. de Gaulle
                                                                     Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.)
     C. A. Johnson
          -Beautification work

     Mrs. Nixon
          -Travels abroad
          -Volunteer activities
               -A dinner, March 18, 1971

     C. A. Johnson
          -Beautification work

     First Ladies
           -Impact on President
                -L. Hoover, E. Roosevelt, B. Truman
           -Impact on husbands
                -Role

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 5:18 pm

     [Unintelligible]

Bull left at an unknown time before 6:17 pm
      First Ladies
             -Influence of wives
                   -[J. L. B.?] Kennedy

     Mrs. Nixon
          -Privacy
          -Fondness for water
          -Privacy
                -Walks on beach in California
          -Appearance
                -Compared with President
          -Privacy
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                 -New York and California

     Life in White House
           -Mrs. Nixon, J. N. Eisenhower, Cox
           -President
                 -President’s view
                 -Work
                 -Needs                                               Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.)
                       -Time to read and think
                            -A recommendation to Congress
                                  -President’s trip to Williamsburg
                            -Theodore (“Teddy”) Roosevelt
                            -Time for leisure activities
                            -Congressmen and politicians

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     President’s schedule

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     President
          -Nomination as Vice President
          -Ambitions in Congress for President
          -Response to D. D. Eisenhower’s nomination
               -Thomas E. Dewey

     Mrs. Nixon
          -Positions on issues
                -Public comments
                     -Compared with J. N. Eisenhower and Cox
                -Compared with President’s positions
                -Discussions with President

     [General conversation]

     President’s morning habits

     Refreshments

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