Conversation: 466-015
Prev:  466-014 Next: 466-016Start Date: 11-Mar-1971 5:18 PM
End Date: 11-Mar-1971 6:17 PM
Participants:
Ziegler, Ronald L.; Lewine, Frances; Thomas, Helen A.; Conroy, Sarah Booth; Beale, Betty; LaHay, Wauhillau; Crawford, Claire; Hutchinson, Louise; McLaughlin, Marya; Wells, Fay G.; Sanchez, Manolo; White House photographer; Bull, Stephen B.; [Unknown person(s)]; Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:33:53
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:42:44
NARA Description:
On March 11, 1971, Ronald L. Ziegler, Frances Lewine, Helen A. Thomas, Sarah Booth Conroy, Betty Beale, Wauhillau LaHay, Claire Crawford, Louise Hutchinson, Marya McLaughlin, Fay G. Wells, Manolo Sanchez, White House photographer, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:18 pm to 6:17 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 466-015 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 466-15 Date: March 11, 1971 Time: 5:18 pm - 6:17 pm Location: Oval Office Ronald L. Ziegler met with Frances Lewine, Helen A. Thomas, Sarah Booth Conroy, Betty Beale, Wauhillau LaHay, Claire Crawford, Louise Hutchinson, Marya McLaughlin, and Fay G. Wells [General conversation] Seating The President entered at an unknown time after 5:18 pm Greetings Fire in fireplace -President’s previous meeting with Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] executives -Frank Stanton -Recollection of meeting with chairman of United States Information Agency advisory board -Fireplaces in White House Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:18 pm Refreshment orders Sanchez left at an unknown time before 6:17 pm Coffee -Sanchez’s ability -President and Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s preferences -Special blend The White House photographer entered at an unknown time after 5:18 pm Photo arrangements The photographer left at an unknown time before 6:17 pm 49 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) Coffee -Mrs. Nixon’s preferences -Special blend and equipment Tea -Americans’ ability to make tea Diet Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.) -President -Compared with men in public life -Women -Cholesterol -Importance -Dwight D. Eisenhower’s heart attack -President’s doctor’s advice -Eggs -Low-fat diet -President’s food preferences -President’s mother’s cooking -Mrs. Nixon’s cooking -Head of State dinners Mrs. Nixon -Stamina -Weight -At first meeting -Currently -Dress size -President’s purchases in Hong Kong and Paris -Appearance -Food preferences President -Food preferences -Today’s schedule -Meeting with John B. Connally and George P. Shultz -Williamsburg appearance -Lunch -Sanchez -Connally’s comment 50 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) Mrs. Nixon -Appearance -Stamina -Public activities -Health -Compared with President’s -Schedule -Stamina Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.) -Early life -Family -College -Effect -Family Advice to youth Mrs. Nixon -Influence on household -Influence on Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Tricia Nixon -Influence of early life President -Goals for daughters -Law school experience -Work in library at Duke University -Effect -A quote by Mrs. Nixon -Family -Edward C. Nixon -President’s father and mother -Time with daughters Mrs. Nixon as First Lady -Compared with Nixon as President -Interest in privacy -Beach at San Clemente -Window shopping in New York -[Name unintelligible] -Opportunities of position -Meeting people -Receiving lines -Volunteer activities 51 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Trips -Peru -With President -1953 trip -Asia -Children’s homes -Hospitals -As hostess of White House Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.) -Role -Travel -Press reports -Effect abroad -Effect of 1953 trip Changes between 1960 and 1968 -Wisdom of age -President’s time spent with Cox and J. N. Eisenhower J. N. Eisenhower -Activities Cox -Public events -CBS tour of White House -Campaign appearances Daughters -Similarities and differences -Similarities to grandparents -Similarities to President and Mrs. Nixon Mrs. Nixon -Birthday gift -Birthday celebration date -Nickname -Family background -Given name -Birth date -Father -Nickname for Mrs. Nixon -Mother’s death -Name 52 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Birth date, day of celebration -March 16, 1971 party -March 17, 1971 Head of State dinner -Ireland -Entertainment -Time with President -Camp David -President’s schedule Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.) -Bowling -Walking -Florida and California -Walking -Golf -Camp David and Florida -Family friends -Personal friends -Roger E. Johnson -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo -Robert H. Abplanalp -Consultation with President Women’s liberation -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II World leaders and wives -President’s State Department briefing books -Biographical sketches -Importance of wives -Public compared with private influence -Charles A. J. M. de Gaulle -Yvonne (Vendroux) de Gaulle’s influence on policy -[Anna] Eleanor Roosevelt and Franklin D. Roosevelt -President’s wartime experience -E. Roosevelt’s visit to Tontoua base in New Caledonia -President’s impression -Lou (Henry) Hoover -President’s previous meeting -President’s membership on board of Whittier College -Compared with Herbert C. Hoover -Bess (Wallace) Truman -President’s previous visit with the Trumans -Truman piano 53 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Influence on Harry S Truman -Mamie G. D. Eisenhower -Compared with D. D. Eisenhower -President’s form of address of Eisenhowers -Formality Family’s influence on President -Mrs. Nixon and daughters Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.) -Role -Compared with White House staff as critics Press influence on President -President’s view -Daniel L. Schorr story on Anti-ballistic Missile [ABM] -Inaccuracy -CBS -National Broadcasting Company [NBC] -American Broadcasting Company [ABC] -Schorr’s story on ABM -President’s attitude Lyndon B. Johnson and John F. Kennedy and wives Children in White House -Mrs. Nixon -Sensitivity -Jacqueline Lee Bouvier Kennedy [Onassis] and children’s visit to White House -Thomas’ story -Alice Roosevelt Longworth -President’s form of address -Kennedy children -President, Mrs. Nixon, J. N. Eisenhower, and Cox Mrs. Nixon Family dogs -King Timahoe, Pasha, Daisy -King -Sanchez -Limitations 54 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) First Ladies -Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson -E. Roosevelt, L. Hoover, B. Truman, M. G. D. Eisenhower, C. A. Johnson, J. L. B. Kennedy, Mrs. Nixon -Influence on husbands Y. de Gaulle Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.) C. A. Johnson -Beautification work Mrs. Nixon -Travels abroad -Volunteer activities -A dinner, March 18, 1971 C. A. Johnson -Beautification work First Ladies -Impact on President -L. Hoover, E. Roosevelt, B. Truman -Impact on husbands -Role Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 5:18 pm [Unintelligible] Bull left at an unknown time before 6:17 pm First Ladies -Influence of wives -[J. L. B.?] Kennedy Mrs. Nixon -Privacy -Fondness for water -Privacy -Walks on beach in California -Appearance -Compared with President -Privacy 55 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -New York and California Life in White House -Mrs. Nixon, J. N. Eisenhower, Cox -President -President’s view -Work -Needs Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.) -Time to read and think -A recommendation to Congress -President’s trip to Williamsburg -Theodore (“Teddy”) Roosevelt -Time for leisure activities -Congressmen and politicians An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 5:18 pm President’s schedule The unknown man left at an unknown time before 6:17 pm President -Nomination as Vice President -Ambitions in Congress for President -Response to D. D. Eisenhower’s nomination -Thomas E. Dewey Mrs. Nixon -Positions on issues -Public comments -Compared with J. N. Eisenhower and Cox -Compared with President’s positions -Discussions with President [General conversation] President’s morning habits Refreshments Lewine, et al. left at 6:17 pm 56 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08)