Conversation: 468-009
Prev:  468-008 Next: 468-010Start Date: 16-Mar-1971 11:00 AM
End Date: 16-Mar-1971 12:20 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Lynch, John M (Jack); Ziegler, Ronald L.; Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:11:10
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:31:17
NARA Description:
On March 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John M. ("Jack") Lynch, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:00 am to 12:20 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 468-009 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 468-9 Conv. No. 468-7 (cont.) Date: March 16, 1971 Time: 11:00 am - 12:20 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with John M. (“Jack”) Lynch [Recording begins while the conversation is in progress] Blair House -Compared with European houses -Irish guest house Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 11:01 am Photographs Members of the press entered at 11:01 am Houses [Unintelligible] Lynch’s schedule -March 18, 1971 Election -Lynch Ziegler and members of the press left at an unknown time before 12:20 pm Press -Lynch’s trip to St. Louis -Lynch’s statement 15 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 [National Security] [Duration: 5m 54s ] GREAT BRITAIN-IRELAND RELATIONS Conv. No. 468-9 (cont.) END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 ****************************************************************************** Northern Ireland -A housing problem -Discrimination -President’s concern -Catholics and Protestants -Housing authority -Unemployment -Bann River area -Percentage -Teenagers -History -Prejudice -British occupation -Oliver Cromwell -Protestants -Ulster ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 [National Security] [Duration: 1m 8s ] NORTHERN IRELAND END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 ****************************************************************************** 16 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) Great Britain -Economy -Textile trade -Recession -Union strikes -Post office Conv. No. 468-9 (cont.) -Effect on relations with Ireland -Employment Ireland -Trade unions -Compared with Great Britain -Post office -Economy -Inflation -Effect of British economy -Recession -Wages -Employment -Construction -Maritime industries -Other industries -Compared with US -Emigration to Great Britain -Passport restrictions -Unemployment -Construction industry -Politics -Previous party conference -Issues -A Shakeup -Lynch -Previous Prime Minister -Support for Lynch -Previous election in Dublin -Lynch’s party -Demonstrations -Compared with 1968 Democratic Party Convention -Inflation -Lynch’s policy -Labor agreements 17 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Trade unions -Negotiations -Resolution -Budget -Compared with US budgetary process -Timing -Cabinet requests Conv. No. 468-9 (cont.) -Problems -An unknown Irish Cabinet minister -Policy -Tenure of governments -Budget -Lynch’s policy Inflation -Europe -Japan -US -Brazil -A Latin American friend of the President -Indonesia -US rate -President’s policies -Prices -Unemployment -Effect -Effect of welfare -Future -Economy -Effect on Europe, Great Britain, and Ireland -US policy -International effect Ireland -Imports -Emigration -President’s view Rural America -Defined -Population loss to cities -Problems in cities 18 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Productivity -Agriculture -Population loss to cities -President’s policy -Cities -Boston-Washington, DC -Pittsburgh-Detroit-Cleveland-Chicago Conv. No. 468-9 (cont.) -San Francisco-San Diego -City population increases -Problems -President’s policies -Medium-sized cities -Infrastructure and facilities -Employment Lynch’s visit to North and South Carolina -Industry -Compared with Ireland -Economy -Schools -Lynch’s observations -Universities Cities -Federal policy -Facilities -Problems -South Philadelphia -Irish immigrants -Socio-economic condition -Problems -South Philadelphia -Blacks -East Europeans -Italians -Changes Irish immigration to US -Changes -Socio-economic position -Accomplishments 19 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -President’s view -George Meany -Teddy Renton [?] -Traditions Ethnic groups in US -Blacks Conv. No. 468-9 (cont.) -African civilizations -Irish, Poles, Germans, and Italians -Head of State visits -Nicolae Ceausescu -Romania -Irish Meany -Previous International Labor Organization [ILO] conference -Lynch’s recollection -Presidency -Communist candidate -Madagascar -Soviet Union -Poland -Election -Communist participation -Lynch’s policy -Purpose of ILO -Labor issues -A West German labor leader -Support for President -Conversation between Lynch and Meany -Cuba -Soviet Union -United States -ILO -Meany’s change in perception -Lynch’s policy Vietnam -US troop withdrawals -President’s forthcoming announcement 20 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Military situation -Laos and Cambodia operations -Press reports -Results -Effect on North Vietnamese supplies -US troop withdrawals -Future of South Vietnam Conv. No. 468-9 (cont.) -US policy -Army of the Republic of Vietnam [ARVN] -Laotian operation (Lam Son) -Compared with Cambodian operation -Military success -President’s previous press conference -Future of South Vietnam -US policy -Objectives -Viability -US troop withdrawals -Timing -Peace negotiations -Peace negotiations -Possible cease fire, withdrawal, and exchange of prisoners -President’s previous comments -North Vietnamese strategy -Timing -President’s view -North Vietnam, US, South Vietnam -Possible future -Military situation -Laotian operation (Lam Son) -Results -ARVN -Effect -US troop withdrawals -President’s position -Senators -Newspaper editorials -President’s position -Timing -Negotiations -Prisoners of War [POWs] -Cease fire 21 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Timing -Results -Future of South Vietnam -Viability -US policy -US troop withdrawals -South Vietnamese military Conv. No. 468-9 (cont.) -North Vietnamese position -South Vietnamese military Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] negotiations -Spring 1971 meetings in Vienna -Effect on US and Soviet Union -President’s view -Future -Prospects Middle East -Israel’s position -Egyptian position -President’s view -Truce -Future -Egypt -Gamal Abdel Nasser -Anwar el-Sadat -US position -Israel -Soviet Union -Egypt Europe -US interests -British entry into Common Market -US agriculture -US policy -Free trade philosophy -British and Irish entry into the Common Market -Common Market policy -US discussions with Edward R. G. Heath -British entry into Common Market -US policy -France, Germany, and Great Britain 22 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -British entry into Common Market -President’s view -US trade position -US trade policy - Free trade -German agriculture -French, British, Irish agriculture Conv. No. 468-9 (cont.) -President’s view -Agriculture subsidies in Europe -Butter -Dairy products -Cattle -US agriculture -Dairy industry -Subsidy -Cheese -Effect on prices -President’s view -French, British, and German economies -Industry -Agriculture Agriculture -Importance -President’s view -Irish -Sector of economy -Benefit of Common Market -Great Britain -Access to markets -Cheese and grains -Budgetary problems in Ireland -Compared with European budget problems -James Callaghan -Lynch’s previous conversation -Heath -Political future 23 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) Tricia Nixon’s engagement -Announcement -Forthcoming Head of State dinner -East Room -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon and Mairin (O’Connor) Lynch -The President and Lynch -Entertainment Conv. No. 468-9 (cont.) -Mrs. Nixon -Guests -President’s remarks -Lynch’s response -Mrs. Nixon -Blue Room receiving line -Mrs. Nixon and M. O. Lynch -T. Nixon and Edward R. F. Cox -Lynch’s departure for Blair House -Mrs. Nixon’s birthday Press questions for Lynch -Foreign policy -Northern Ireland -Lynch’s comments -The President Northern Ireland -Lynch’s meeting with the President -Heath -Forthcoming press statements by Lynch -Unification -Reforms -British policy -Meeting of President and Lynch -President’s comments -Reforms Lynch’s schedule -Forthcoming events -Blair House -President’s forthcoming meetings 24 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) Duties of Presidents -President -Eamon De Valera -President’s meeting -Possible successor -Lynch’s age -Political position Conv. No. 468-9 (cont.) Ireland -Revolution -Compared with US -Political situation -Lynch’s policies -Future leadership -Parliament -Lynch Political leadership -President’s advice to youth -President’s advice to Congressmen and Senators -Leadership traits -Issues of Nixon Administration -Riots -Vietnam War -Youth -President’s policies -Polls -Winston S. Churchill’s statement -Actions of leader -Public opinion President’s meeting with Lynch Oval Office -Painting of George Washington -Seal in carpet -Theodore (“Teddy”) Roosevelt -Picture of White House in 1837 The President and Lynch left at 12:20 pm 25 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08)