Conversation 469-012

TapeTape 469StartThursday, March 18, 1971 at 6:24 PMEndThursday, March 18, 1971 at 6:25 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Cox, Tricia NixonRecording deviceOval Office

On March 18, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox met in the Oval Office of the White House from 6:24 pm to 6:25 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 469-012 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 469-12

Date: March 18, 1971
Time: 6:24 pm - 6:25 pm
Location: Oval Office
Tricia Nixon talked with the President

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     Tricia Nixon Cox’s schedule
           -Helene (Colesie) Drown

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[End of telephone conversation]

                                                                   Conversation No. 469-13

Date: March 18, 1971
Time: Unknown between 6:25 pm and 7:32 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods

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     The President’s previous conversation with Tricia Nixon Cox

          -Dinner
          -Tricia Nixon Cox
          -March 17, 1971 dinner with Jack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown
          -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s birthday
                -March 16, 1971 event

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 6:26 pm

     The President’s schedule
          -Possible trip to Camp David
          -March 19, 1971 New York trip
               -Departure time
          -Camp David, Andrews Air Force Base

     Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s schedule
          -New York
               -Departure and arrival times

     Jack Drown
          -Schedule
          -John V. (“Jack”) Brennan
          -Compared with Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo and Robert H. Abplanalp
          -Compared with Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis

     The President’s schedule
          -Meeting with Secretary of Treasury
          -Jack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown
                -Time spent with the President
                      -Effect on the President
                -Compared with Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo

     Jack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown
          -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s opinion

[Pause]

Henry A. Kissinger entered at 6:30 pm

     Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s schedule
          -Helene (Colesie) Drown
          -New York
     Kissinger’s previous meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
          -Berlin
                -A draft agreement

Woods left at 6:31 pm

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     Kissinger’s previous meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
          -Berlin
                -A draft agreement
                      -Kissinger’s concurrence
                -[David] Kenneth Rush
                -Draft agreement
                      -US response
          -Another item
                -Response

     Supersonic Transport [SST]
          -Vote in Congress
               -Congress
               -President’s meeting with John B. Connally
          -Environmentalists
          -Vote in Congress
               -Tally
               -President’s view
          -Environmentalists
               -President’s view
               -Kissinger’s view
          -France and the US
          -Administration action
          -Senate

           -Clark MacGregor
           -President’s supporters
                 -Effect
                 -Commercials
           -Soviet Union
           -Legislation
                 -Prototypes
                 -Compared with flights to Moon
                 -Effect of Lyndon B. Johnson’s last two years in office
                       -Connally
                       -President’s November 3, 1969 speech
                 -President’s accomplishments

     Economy
         -Arthur F. Burns
         -Dow-Jones average
              -November 1972
              -Current reading
              -Effect of SST vote

     SST

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 6:40 pm

     An unknown item

Butterfield left at 6:41 pm

     President’s press conference, March 19, 1971
          -SST
           -Foreign policy
     A press conference in California

     President’s televised interview, March 20, 1971
          -Time
                -Kissinger’s meeting with Dobrynin

     John D. Ehrlichman’s report to Haldeman
          -George W. Romney meetings

     SST

          -Administration opponents

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     Donald F. Nixon
         -Call to the President
               -Time
               -March 18, 1971

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     Vietnam
          -Military situation
                -A memo
                -Laos operation figures
                      -Success
                      -Sihanoukville [Kompong Som]
                      -Effect on North Vietnamese Army
                -Possible enemy action
                -Cambodia, Laos
                      -North Vietnamese troop levels

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 6:31 pm

     Connally

Bull left at an unknown time before 6:45 pm

     Vietnam
          -Effect of Laotian operation (Lam Son)
                -Enemy supplies
                      -Decreases
          -President’s forthcoming interview with Howard K. Smith
                -Information

          -President’s April 7, 1971 speech
                -Laos operation
          -President’s position

Ehrlichman entered at 6:45 pm

          -International establishment
          -Walt W. Rostow
                -Previous meeting with Kissinger
                -Position
                      -Support for the President
                -President, Johnson Cabinet
                      -Dean Rusk
                      -Robert S. McNamara
                -Negotiations
                      -Chou En-lai’s visit to North Vietnam
                      -Soviet Union
          -Negotiations
                -Soviet Union
                -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                -North Vietnamese government
                      -Effects of War
                            -Casualties
                            -Population decreases
          -Military situation
                -North Vietnamese troops
                      -Cambodia
                -Laos
                      -US air strikes
                      -Richard M. Helms
                      -Weather
                -Cambodia
                      -North Vietnamese troops
                            -Supplies
                                  -Route 4
                            -Sihanoukville [Kompong Som]
                            -Phnom Penh
                            -Press coverage
          -Negotiations
                -North Vietnam
                      -General Nguyen Van Thieu’s government

                       -Forthcoming US Presidential election
           -Effect of 1972 Election
                 -Kissinger’s view
                       -Effect on negotiations
           -Effect of 1968 Election
                 -Johnson
                 -Hubert H. Humphrey
                 -US domestic situation
                 -Timing
                       -Thieu
           -Negotiations
                 -US proposals
                 -Cambodia and Laos
                 -Cease fire
                 -US troop withdrawal
                 -Prisoners of War [POWs]
                 -US troop withdrawal
                       -Timing
                       -Effect
           -Forthcoming US military action
                 -Troops
                 -Air strikes
           -Kissinger’s report for President
           -Helicopter pilots

     Kissinger’s schedule
          -Henry Brandon
                -Book party
                -Wiretaps
                     -Haldeman

Kissinger left at 6:50 pm

     Economy
         -Ehrlichman’s report
               -Meetings of Maurice H. Stans and three unnamed others
                    -Reason
                    -Wage and price controls
                    -Importance
                         -Paul W. McCracken and Burns
                    -Domestic Council

                      -Ehrlichman
                      -George P. Shultz
     -Cabinet Committee on Economic Policy
           -Stans
           -Clifford M. Hardin
           -Compared with Congressmen and Senators
           -Domestic Council
     -Ehrlichman’s attendance at March 20, 1971 meeting
     -Possible Domestic Council meeting
     -A presentation
           -President
           -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
           -Shultz
     -Income strategy
           -Shultz
           -Burns
           -McCracken
           -Burns
     -Administration jurisdictions
           -Problems
           -Kissinger’s comment
           -Domestic Council
           -Cabinet meeting
                 -James D. Hodgson
     -Construction costs
           -Shultz
           -Hodgson

Cabinet
     -Future
     -Possible trips
          -Romney, John A. Volpe, Hardin, Stans, Winton M. (“Red”) Blount
     -Blount’s plans for post office construction
          -Army Corps of Engineers
          -General Services Administration [GSA]
                 -Effect on personnel
          -Army Corps of Engineers
          -Effects at GSA
          -Congress
     -Romney
          -Possible call from Ehrlichman

                 -Domestic Council meeting
                 -Hodgson
                 -Postponement of March 20, 1971 meeting
                 -Domestic Council meeting
                       -President’s possible attendance
     -Revenue sharing
           -Romney and Volpe
     -Jurisdiction
           -Domestic Council
     -Possible meeting with construction costs group
           -McCracken
           -Edwin L. Harper
     -Shultz
     -Forthcoming meeting with President
           -Timing
     -Connally
           -Jurisdictions
     -Forthcoming meeting with President

Connally
    -Meeting with Burns
         -Jurisdictions
               -Investment tax credits
               -Social Security

Economy
    -Jurisdictions
          -Shultz
          -Romney
    -Agnew’s role
    -President’s role
    -Jurisdictions
          -Stans, Hardin, Romney, Volpe, Burns
          -Shultz

Volpe
     -Automobile insurance
     -Possible future
     -Italian support for President
     -Rocco C. Siciliano
     -Support for President

          -Interdepartmental committee on oil spills
                -Chairmanship
                -Oil spills conference at The Hague
                      -President’s knowledge
                -William D. Ruckelshaus

     Economy
               -Shultz
               -Domestic Council

     Blount
          -Cabinet meeting

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     Alabama senatorial candidacy
          -James D. Martin
               -White House action
               -The President’s preference
          -Winton M. (“Red”) Blount
               -Prospects
          -The President's role
          -James D. Martin
               -Patricia Huddleston Martin performance at service
               -1969 [?]
               -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
          -White House action
          -Winton M. (“Red”) Blount's actions
               -Alabama
                     -Re-organization in Oregon
          -James D. Martin
               -Prospects
               -Ability to campaign
               -Chances of winning

                   -The President’s opinion
         -White House action
         -James D. Martin
              -Relationship with the President
         -Winton M. (“Red”) Blount
              -Possible meeting with the President

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    Economy
         -Jurisdictions
               -Shultz
                     -Shultz’s position
               -President’s role
               -Burns
    President’s schedule
         -Thomas E. Dewey funeral
               -Departure time
         -Meeting with Burns
               -Time
                     -President’s departure

    Economists and professors
              -Compared with women, children

    Cabinet meetings
         -William P. Rogers’ suggestion
              -Frequency
         -Previous meeting
              -Ehrlichman’s view
              -President’s view
              -Nicaragua
              -Kenya
              -Volpe’s automobile proposal
              -Romney
         -Format

    Domestic Council meeting
        -Frequency
        -President’s role
        -Format

     Cabinet meetings
          -President’s attendance
          -Rogers

Recording was cut off at an unknown time before 7:32 pm