{"conversationCode":"470-016","tapeNumber":470,"conversationNumber":16,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-470-016","startDateTime":"1971-03-19T17:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-03-19T18:05:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Mar-1971","startTime":"12:52 PM","endDate":"19-Mar-1971","endTime":"1:05 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); Woods, Rose Mary; Mills, Wilbur D.;","description":"On March 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, Rose Mary Woods, and Wilbur D. Mills met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:52 pm and 1:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 470-016 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 470-16\n\nDate: March 19, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 12:52 and 1:30 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 11/21/2019.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[470-016-w001]\n[Duration: 55s]\n\n     Rose Mary Woods\n\n     Jack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown’s schedule\n          -Length of stay\n\n               -Jack Drown\n                     -Departing March 21, 1971\n               -Helene (Colesie) Drown\n                     -Through March 22-26, 1971\n\nRose Mary Woods entered at 1:05 pm\n\n     Jack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown’s schedule\n          -San Clemente\n          -Possibility of going to Camp David\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n     The President’s schedule\n          -Camp David\n               -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin\n               -Henry A. Kissinger\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 11/22/2019.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[470-016-w003]\n[Duration: 1m]\n\n     Jack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown\n          -Visits\n                -Camp David\n                -Florida\n                -The President’s schedule\n                -Camp David\n                -March 18, 1971 conversation\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n[The President talked with Wilbur D. Mills between 1:06 pm and 1:08 pm]\n\n[Conversation No. 470-16A]\n\n     Mills’ grandchildren and daughter\n          -Tour of White House\n\n[End of telephone conversation]\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 11/21/2019.\n17m 45s segment cleared for release. 29s remain closed as 470-016-w004.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[470-016-w004]\n[Duration: 17m 45s]\n\n     The President's schedule, March 18, 1971\n          -Work load\n\n     Jack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown\n          -Rose Mary Woods’ opinion\n          -Camp David\n          -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n               -Suggested schedule\n\n     The President and Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s schedule for coming week\n          -March 23, 1971\n               -Dinner\n          -March 24, 1971\n               -International Neighbors Club tea\n               -Republican fundraiser\n          -March 23, 1971\n               -Edwin D. Etherington dinner\n                     -Jack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown attendance\n          -March 25, 1971\n               -Maurice H. Stans dinner\n                     -White House\n               -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s presence\n                     -Ceremony for Outstanding Handicapped Federal Employee of 1970\n                     -Meeting with Jeanie Smith\n\n     Helene (Colesie) Drown\n          -Length of previous visit\n\n     -Jack Drown [?]\n     -New York\n\nThe President's schedule\n     -San Clemente\n           -Jack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown presence\n                 -1972 campaign advice\n                 -Economic advice\n     -Camp Hoover\n     -Camp David\n           -Jack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown’s visit\n           -Meetings with outsiders\n                 -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n     -March 22, 1971 television interview\n           -Preparation\n     -Jack Drown\n           -March 16, 1971 dinner and March 17, 1971 dinner\n           -Helene (Colesie) Drown\n                 -Conversations with the President\n\nThe President's schedule\n     -Possible meeting with Jack Drown\n           -Rose Mary Woods’ opinion\n           -Current problems\n           -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo, Robert H. Abplanalp, Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis\n                 -Time spent with the President\n     -Staff and congressional meetings\n     -Recent conversation with Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo\n\nJack Drown\n     -Conversation with Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo\n     -Compared with Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo\n     -The President’s opinion\n     -Rose Mary Woods’ opinion\n     -Effect of being around the President\n          -Jack Drown’s view on the friendship\n     -Hawaii vacation with the President and Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n          -Rose Mary Woods’ recollection\n     -Palm Beach visit\n          -Smith House [?]\n\nHelene (Colesie) Drown\n\n         -Schedule\n         -Length of visit\n\n    The President's schedule\n         -California\n               -March 26-27, 1971\n               -Rose Mart Woods’ view\n               -Helene (Colesie) Drown\n                     -Length of visit in Washington, DC\n                     -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4\n[Personal Returnable]\n[470-016-w004]\n[Duration: 29s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWAN ITEM NO. 4\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n    Jack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown\n         -Compared to the President’s other friends\n         -Quality of friendship\n              -Genuineness\n         -Effect on other California friends\n         -Effect on Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s family\n         -Effect on F. Donald Nixon\n              -Telephone calls with the President\n         -Effect on Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s family\n         -Herbert W. Kalmbach\n              -California duties\n         -Rose Mary Woods\n         -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo\n         -John D. Ehrlichman\n              -Previous conversation with Jack Drown\n\n    Jack Drown\n\n     -Possible ambassadorship\n          -Potential interest\n\nThe President's schedule\n     -March 19, 1971\n           -National Alliance for Business [NAB] reception\n                 -Jack Drown attendance\n     -Jack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown\n     -March 20, 1971 appointments\n     -Camp David\n           -Jack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown\n           -The President’s absence\n           -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n           -Cabins in use\n           -March 22, 1971 television interview\n                 -Preparation\n                 -Researchers\n           -Jack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown\n                 -Interest in visiting Camp David\n\nHelene (Colesie) Drown\n     -Schedule\n     -Rose Mary Woods’ view\n\nJack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown\n     -Raymond J. Arbuthnot\n     -Robert H. Finch\n          -Opinion\n\nThe President's schedule\n     -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n     -Camp David\n           -Helicopter\n           -Driving\n     -National Alliance for Business [NAB] reception\n     -Possible reasons to go to Camp David\n     -Forthcoming talk with Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n           -Camp David\n     -American Broadcasting Company [ABC]\n     -Request to call Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n           -Jack Drown and Helene (Colesie) Drown\n           -Reception\n\n                -March 22, 1971 television interview\n                     -Camp David\n                          -The President’s need for privacy\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nWoods and Haldeman left at an unknown time before 1:30 pm","filename":["470-016.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:34:10","tapeEnd":"03:56:38","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","Woods, Rose Mary","Mills, Wilbur D."],"prevCode":"470-015","nextCode":"470-017","transcript":[{"start":53.03,"end":58.75,"text":"For instance, we could use Camp David for a meeting with Doreen this weekend or something."},{"start":60.48,"end":63.06,"text":"You have to be up there and Henry's gonna come up."},{"start":63.08,"end":67.21,"text":"You just can't have anybody else at the camp or something like that."},{"start":137.73,"end":144.1,"text":"Hello, I just wanted you to know I had some interesting visitors today."},{"start":144.12,"end":148.92,"text":"I had four little types that said they were your grandchildren."},{"start":148.94,"end":151.97,"text":"That's where they accused them."},{"start":152.13,"end":159.58,"text":"One of the girls, she came in and said, I've seen you on television."},{"start":159.6,"end":161.42,"text":"And then when she went up to her, she said, I love you."},{"start":161.44,"end":162.06,"text":"So I have to tell you."},{"start":162.08,"end":165.48,"text":"But your daughter was in it, of course, she was her wife."},{"start":165.64,"end":166.94,"text":"How cute they are, of course."},{"start":171.01,"end":176.57,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":177.07,"end":182.02,"text":"Oh, I see."},{"start":182.04,"end":183.16,"text":"Right."},{"start":187.17,"end":189.19,"text":"Right."},{"start":189.21,"end":191.61,"text":"Well, they had an idea."},{"start":191.63,"end":198.88,"text":"I'll watch that direction business."},{"start":198.9,"end":199,"text":"Okay."},{"start":199.02,"end":199.28,"text":"That's right."},{"start":199.3,"end":199.56,"text":"That's right."},{"start":199.58,"end":199.68,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":199.95,"end":201.35,"text":"But I'd like this."},{"start":201.62,"end":204.54,"text":"I'm all for it."},{"start":205.39,"end":205.55,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":205.61,"end":205.73,"text":"Right."},{"start":205.75,"end":205.95,"text":"You bet."},{"start":205.97,"end":206.21,"text":"Okay."},{"start":207.74,"end":207.82,"text":"Bye."},{"start":1349.32,"end":1349.42,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with H. R. Haldeman and Rose Mary Woods to coordinate his upcoming schedule, specifically regarding the logistics of hosting Jack and Helene Drown at Camp David and managing various social engagements for the First Lady. The discussion emphasized the President's need for privacy at Camp David to prepare for a television interview and meet with Henry Kissinger. Additionally, Nixon briefly spoke by telephone with Representative Wilbur D. Mills to acknowledge a White House tour provided to Mills' family.","topics":["Camp David","Presidential scheduling","Jack Drown","Pat Nixon","Wilbur D. 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