Conversation: 472-003
Prev:  472-002 Next: 472-004Start Date: 23-Mar-1971 9:56 AM
End Date: 23-Mar-1971 10:15 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Scott, Hugh; Ford, Gerald R.; Ziegler, Ronald L.; MacGregor, Clark; Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:11:24
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:27:04
NARA Description:
On March 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Hugh Scott, Gerald R. Ford, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Clark MacGregor met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:56 am to 10:15 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 472-003 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 472-3 Date: March 23, 1971 Time: 9:56 am - 10:15 am Location: Oval Office The President met with Hugh Scott, Gerald R. Ford, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Clark MacGregor [Recording begins while the conversation is in progress] Supersonic Transport [SST] -Soviet airplanes -Importance -Great Britain -Soviet Union -Export sales -Japan, India -House and Senate action -House vote -Ford -Forthcoming Senate vote -Scott’s assistance -Hubert H. Humphrey -Letter to George Meany -Forthcoming Senate vote -Peter H. Dominick 4 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Ford’s concerns -Votes -Dominick -James L. Buckley -Margaret Chase Smith -Pat [Surname unknown] -An unknown Senator -Congressman Conv. No. 472-3 (cont.) -Ford’s statement at Republican meeting -Results -Democrats -Southern Democrats -Robert J. Dole’s efforts -Future action -Possible effect on jobs -Space shuttle -Exploration of Mars -Previous Republican leaders’ meeting -Ford’s view -US role Vietnam -Laos operation (Lam Son) -Possible responses for press -President’s previous interview with Howard K. Smith -Defense Department briefings -President’s previous interview -Cambodian operation -US troop withdrawals -Effect -Vietnamization -Effect of operation -Public opinion -Casualties -North Vietnamese, South Vietnamese -Effect on US troops -Possible response for press -Effect -Casualties -General Creighton W. Abrams, Jr. -Future -Compared with Cambodia 5 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Photographs -Distortions -Casualties -Photographs -Coverage -Abrams -Effect -US troop withdrawals Conv. No. 472-3 (cont.) -Vietnamization policy -Casualties -Compared with Cambodian operation -Goals -Compared with Cambodian operation -Withdrawals, casualties, Vietnamization -Army of the Republic of Vietnam [ARVN] withdrawal -Possible responses to press -Hanoi Radio claim -Abrams’ comments -President’s actions -Casualties -Effect of action Ford and Scott’s work -Ford’s schedule -A breakfast with the President -Texas trip President’s schedule -Breakfast with Ford, Carl B. Albert, and [Thomas] Hale Boggs -Leslie C. Arends -Thomas P. (“Tip”) O’Neill, Jr. -William E. Timmons -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield and Robert C. Byrd -Robert P. Griffin and Scott -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy -Griffin, Byrd -Mansfield -Forthcoming California trip -Meeting with Mansfield, Byrd, Griffin, and Scott 6 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) SST -Forthcoming Senate vote -Byrd or Griffin -Possible outcome of vote -Tally -Dominick -Possible position Conv. No. 472-3 (cont.) Scott, et al. left at 10:14 am; MacGregor remained Milk producers -President’s meeting with Albert H. Quie -Milk price supports -Possible Congressional action -President’s position -Possible statement Congress -John B. Connally -SST -Effect of polls -SST vote MacGregor left at 10:15 am