{"conversationCode":"472-005","tapeNumber":472,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-472-005","startDateTime":"1971-03-23T15:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-03-23T15:16:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Mar-1971","startTime":"10:16 AM","endDate":"23-Mar-1971","endTime":"10:16 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 10:16 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 472-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 472-5\n\nDate: March 23, 1971\nTime: 10:16 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\n[A transcript of the following portion of the conversation was initially prepared for the\nWatergate Special Prosecution Force [WSPF] and can be found in Record Group [RG] 460. The\nNixon Presidential Materials Staff has reveiwed the transcript and has made changes as\nnecessary. This transcript has been reviewed under the provisions of the Presidential Recordings\nand Materials Preservation Act of 1974 [PRMPA]. The National Archives does not guarantee its\naccuracy.]\n\n[End of transcript]\n\nBull left at 10:16 am","filename":["472-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:27:25","tapeEnd":"00:27:42","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"472-004","nextCode":"472-006","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":18.23,"text":"I'm just kidding."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull engaged in a brief, informal exchange immediately following Bull's arrival in the Oval Office. The conversation consisted of casual banter rather than substantive policy discussions or administrative business. No formal actions or decisions were recorded during this brief encounter.","topics":["Oval Office procedures","Presidential scheduling","Staff relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T21:29:49.418Z"},"topicSlugs":["oval-office-procedures","presidential-scheduling","staff-relations"],"audioDurationSec":18,"audioFiles":[{"file":"472-005.mp3","bytes":437602,"durationSec":18.18,"bitrate":192562,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:48.988Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/472-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/472-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/472/conversation-472-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}