Conversation: 472-011
Prev:  472-010 Next: 472-012Start Date: 23-Mar-1971 12:16 PM
End Date: 23-Mar-1971 1:07 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.; Shultz, George P.; [Unknown person(s)]; Kissinger, Henry A.; Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:31:09
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:21:56
NARA Description:
On March 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, George P. Shultz, unknown person(s), and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:16 pm to 1:07 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 472-011 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 472-11 Date: March 23, 1971 Time: 12:16 pm - 1:07 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with John D. Ehrlichman George P. Shultz’s location Election reform -Robert J. Dole -President’s statement -Ehrlichman’s assessment -Hugh Scott -Congressional hearings -Marlow W. Cook -Congressional hearings -Administration position 20 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Constitutional issues -Justice Department Interior Department -Appointment of Under secretary -Rogers C. B. Morton -Dr. James R. Schlesinger -Shultz Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.) -Morton’s conversation with Ehrlichman -William T. Pecora -Norbert Tiemann from Nebraska -Roman L. Hruska -Tiemann -Needs for Under secretary -President’s view -Pecora -Tiemann Shultz entered at 12:18 pm Economy and construction industry -March 25, 1971 meeting of James D. Hodgson’s commission -Proposal -Wage Board -Operations -Effect -Davis-Bacon Act -Options -Shultz’s view -Wage increases -Hardhats Army Corps of Engineers -David Packard -Reorganization -Water and natural resources -Defense Department -Roles -Packard -Melvin R. Laird -Office of Management and Budget [OMB] staff -Possible compromise 21 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Department of the Interior -Laird -Possible actions in Congress -Defense Department -President’s view -Bureau of Reclamation -President’s view -Department of Natural Resources Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.) -Bureau of Reclamation’s position Abortion -Laird -Dr. Louis M. Rousselot -A press conference response -Abortions in military hospitals -Department of Defense policy -Roman Catholic response -State legislature actions -Laird’s staff -White House staff -Laird’s conversations with Terence Cardinal Cook and unnamed Cardinals -Charles W. Colson’s conversation with Cardinal Cook -President’s view -Ehrlichman’s instructions -Laird’s response -President’s possible actions -Letter from the President to Laird -President’s convictions -President’s policy -Previous statements Welfare reform bill -Congressional action -Amount of aid -Food stamps -State and federal programs -Amount of aid -Effect on budget -Food stamps -State and federal programs -Labor Department role -Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW] 22 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Work requirement -President’s view -Funding -OMB work with Congress -Transition period -Time frame -Work requirement -Possible letter from President Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.) -Manpower -Public service employment bill -Possible Administration compromise -Special revenue sharing -Shultz’s view -Public service employment bill -Possible compromise -Shultz’s role -Presidential authority Government reorganization -Department of Natural Resources -President’s view -Congressional committee -Previous Republican leadership meeting with the President -Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick -Arnold R. Weber’s role -Briefing -President’s view Revenue sharing -Forthcoming message to Congress -Meeting of working group -President’s schedule -Special revenue sharing meeting -Work of working group -President’s appreciation -Meeting of working group -Attendees -President’s view -Location -Number of attendees -The President 23 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Pamphlets -Preparation -Distribution -Stephen B. Bull -Subjects -Distribution -Congressmen -Edwin D. Etherington, Donald McI. Kendall Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.) Milk prices -March 24, 1971 meeting -John B. Connally -Upcoming Congressional action -Connally, Clifford M. Hardin, Ehrlichman, John C. Whitaker, Donald B. Rice -Meeting with the President -Deadline An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 12:18 pm President’s schedule -Mayors -Etherington -James L. Buckley -Mayors -Length of meeting -John V. Lindsay -Buckley -Meeting with Connally, Hardin, Whitaker, Ehrlichman, and Rice -Date and time -Follow-up -President’s conversations with Connally and Hardin The unknown man left at an unknown time before 1:07 pm Public works project -Ehrlichman’s previous conversation with the President -House Public Works Committee -Public broadcasting -Position of Republicans -Possible veto of bill by President -Environmental impact -White House position 24 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) Airlines George W. Romney group’s meeting, March 22, 1971 -Ehrlichman’s attendance -Further meeting -Unions, business -Possible freeze on prices and wages in construction -Executive order Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.) -Wage raises -Arthur F. Burns -Enforcement -Department of Labor or Commerce -A wage and price board -Extension to longshoremen and other industries -Steel -Deadline -John A. Volpe -Ehrlichman’s view -Attendees -Volpe, Romney, Maurice H. Stans, Hardin, Winton M. (“Red”) Blount, Burns, and Paul W. McCracken -Ehrlichman’s conversation with Stans -Stans’ position -Romney, Volpe Burns -Wage-Price Stabilization Board -Call to Ehrlichman -Rowland Evans and Robert D. Novak column -Taxes, Vance Hartke -Support for President -President’s meeting -Statements on taxes -Upcoming meeting with Shultz -Relations with Connally, President -Positions on investment tax policy -Meeting with President -Statements by Burns -Economic policy discussion -Wages and prices Henry A. Kissinger entered at an unknown time after 12:18 pm 25 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) President and Kissinger’s schedules Kissinger left at an unknown time before 1:07 pm Burns -Meeting with President -White House staff -McCracken, Shultz Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.) -Wage-Price Stabilization Board Wage-Price Stabilization Board -Possibility for success -President’s view -Prices -Future -Shultz’s view -President’s view -Price increases Davis-Bacon Act -Administration’s position -Burns’ possible response -Shultz’s upcoming meeting with Burns -Business community’s position -Burns Wage-Price Stabilization Board Parity -Burns -Connally -Burns’s position -Blount’s question -Construction industry -Burns -Scope -Possible Executive Order -Possibility of success -Shultz’s position -Ehrlichman’s view -President’s position -President’s policies -Steel workers 26 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Dates of operation -Cause and effect -Steel industry -Effect of possible strike -McCracken’s position -Construction industry -History -Timing Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.) -1972 Economy -President’s talk with Connally -Dow-Jones average -Federal budget -Goal -First quarter of 1971 figures -Direction -Second half of 1971 -President’s view -Steel -Consumer Price Index [CPI] -Direction -Inflation -Unemployment -President’s position -Last quarter of 1971 -President’s position -Economists -Direction -Dow-Jones average -1972 actions -Money supply -Burns -Federal budget -Shultz’s view -Monetary policy -Effects -Future -Otto Eckstein’s position -Gross National Product [GNP] forecast -Compared with Shultz’s forecast 27 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Stock market -Etherington -American Stock Exchange -Effect on economy -President’s view -Profits -Arthur B. Laffer’s model -Institutional investors Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.) -Peter Winant [?] -Ehrlichman’s conversation -Expectations for 1972, 1971 Shultz’s schedule -Burns Government reorganization -Department of Transportation -Volpe’s response -Federal Aviation Administration [FAA] head -Volpe -Possible meeting with President -Shultz, Ehrlichman -Position on Supersonic Transport [SST] control -National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA] -Department of Agriculture -Hardin -Extension service -Possible compromise -Volpe’s position SST -Upcoming Senate vote -Tally -Thornton A. (“T”) Wilson of Boeing -Previous conversation with Shultz -President’s position -President’s position -House leaders -Gerald R. Ford, Scott -Position on SST, rapid transit -Labor’s position -Kenneth E. BeLieu 28 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -[Name unintelligible] -George Meany -Forthcoming call from Shultz -Jobs -US position in world -Andrew Biemiller -Location -BeLieu Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.) Shultz’s meeting with Burns -Wage-Price board Ehrlichman and Shultz left at 1:07 pm