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Start Date: 25-Mar-1971 9:50 AM

End Date: 25-Mar-1971 10:12 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Baker, StevenByrd, WalterFriars, EileenGrimm, StanleySternoff, JayFinch, Robert H.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:57:39

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:19:02

473-005.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 25, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Steven Baker, Walter Byrd, Eileen Friars, Stanley Grimm, Jay Sternoff, and Robert H. Finch met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:50 am to 10:12 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 473-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 473-5

Date: March 25, 1971
Time: 9:50 am - 10:12 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Steven Baker, Walter Byrd, Eileen Friars, Stanley Grimm, Jay Sternoff,
and Robert H. Finch

     Introduction

     Seating arrangements

     A photographer

     Finch’s paper on youth
          -President’s meeting with Edwin D. Etherington
          -Public relations efforts
                -Administration policies

     Issues of concern to students
          -Military service draft
                 -Deferments
          -Student loans
          -Need for communications
          -Military service draft, loans, internships
                 -Administration speakers and counselors
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 9/08)



     -Summer internship in government
         -Number
         -Capitol Hill
               -One Senator’s experience
         -Numbers
         -Congress
         -White House assignments
         -Departmental assignments                        Conv. No. 473-5 (cont.)
         -State and local governments
               -New York
               -California

Student leaders’ conference
     -Student leaders
           -Credibility
                 -Meeting with Finch
     -Student legislation
     -Policy position
     -Credibility
     -Subsidies
     -Legislation
           -Student views
                 -Resolutions
           -Credibility of student leaders
                 -Accessibility to government leaders

Issues
     -Marijuana
     -Eighteen-year-old vote

Students and government
     -Communications
           -Importance
           -A previous conference
           -Effect
     -Memorandum from the students to the President
     -Relationship
           -President’s view
           -Draft
     -Employment
           -Fields of study
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              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                         Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. 9/08)



    -White House and Cabinet officers
          -Internships
    -Congressmen and Senators
    -Need for government action
          -Volunteers in Service to America [VISTA]
          -Peace Corps
          -Teachers’ Corps reorganization
                -Joseph H. Blatchford                   Conv. No. 473-5 (cont.)
          -Blatchford’s role
                -National Center for Voluntary Action
    -Administration policies
    -State and local government level
          -Revenue sharing policy
                -Effect
                      -President’s position
          -Bellevue, Washington
          -Department of Housing and Urban Development [HUD]
                -Urban renewal
                -Model Cities programs
                -Effect of President’s programs
-Communications
    -Student government
    -President’s student government career
    -Role of student leaders
          -Administration speakers
                -Revenue sharing
                -Vietnam
    -Administration speakers
          -Appearances at clubs, campuses
          -Cabinet and department officers
                -Compared to professors
                      -President’s professors
                -Effect
                -Possible invitations
                -Reception on campus
    -Congressional speakers
    -1961 to 1970 period
          -World and national events
          -Importance of communication
          -President’s possible appearance
                -Secret Service
          -Finch’s experiences
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 9/08)



                 -Baker’s perception
           -Attitude toward President’s reelection
                 -Possible meetings with President
                 -Baker’s attitude toward President
           -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
           -President’s support among student in 1972
                 -Attitude toward administration
                       -Administration’s view of youth                Conv. No. 473-5 (cont.)
                       -Importance of dialogue
                 -Possible invitation to speakers
                       -Peter Teague
                 -Perception of President
           -Communications

     President’s schedule
          -National Security Council [NSC] meeting

     Oval Office
          -Tour by Finch
          -George Washington portrait
          -Head of State gifts

The President left at 10:12 am

           -A gift from Boy Scouts

Recording was cut off at 10:12 am