{"conversationCode":"474-004","tapeNumber":474,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-474-004","startDateTime":"1971-03-26T16:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-03-26T16:17:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Mar-1971","startTime":"11:15 AM","endDate":"26-Mar-1971","endTime":"11:17 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 26, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:15 am to 11:17 am. 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(President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"474-003","nextCode":"474-005","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":8.9,"text":"Mr. President, we did increase the number."},{"start":8.92,"end":9.98,"text":"We had 65 people on this Chesapeake Society program."},{"start":10.01,"end":15.27,"text":"Actually, there wouldn't have been a hundred million if not death to death."},{"start":15.29,"end":18.66,"text":"This is about how we're going to get screwed up in four years."},{"start":18.68,"end":19.58,"text":"He was lobbying."},{"start":19.6,"end":21.7,"text":"He was just lobbying us behind the numbers."},{"start":22.19,"end":35.63,"text":"Well, I suppose the shake hands are all on the property."},{"start":35.65,"end":37.91,"text":"There are 65 people in there now who are going to greet them, say hello to the White House."},{"start":37.93,"end":41.34,"text":"An option could be for them to run through and shake hands with you, but that's the only option."},{"start":41.36,"end":43.1,"text":"I have a real need to, which is going to greet them."},{"start":43.45,"end":64.03,"text":"And you can refer to the red carpeted special tour that's been arranged for all of the 100 media this afternoon at 3 o'clock in their special tour at the White House."},{"start":64.05,"end":66.25,"text":"You're all ready to go, sir."},{"start":66.27,"end":68.94,"text":"You may just take other boards to the front of the fireplace."},{"start":70.91,"end":85.81,"text":"Anthony, uh, Anthony Salabresi, uh, he's a little bit more sensitive."},{"start":85.83,"end":91.09,"text":"He's going to be ready for what he's going to have to do."},{"start":91.11,"end":95.8,"text":"In the name of God, I didn't know he was making remarks while I was conferring some drugs."},{"start":95.82,"end":96.94,"text":"Well, this drug conference is similar to the other ones."},{"start":96.96,"end":97.78,"text":"These are religious leaders."},{"start":97.8,"end":98.18,"text":"This is a drop-off."},{"start":98.2,"end":98.64,"text":"It's a beer march."},{"start":98.66,"end":99.46,"text":"I need to know about it in advance."},{"start":102.53,"end":110.99,"text":"I'll hum you off and finish you in a second."},{"start":111.01,"end":111.31,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":111.33,"end":111.8,"text":"The drug group is 1145."},{"start":111.81,"end":115.49,"text":"This group is headed to the left."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. 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