{"conversationCode":"474-006","tapeNumber":474,"conversationNumber":6,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-474-006","startDateTime":"1971-03-26T16:22:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-03-26T16:35:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Mar-1971","startTime":"11:22 AM","endDate":"26-Mar-1971","endTime":"11:35 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 26, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:22 am and 11:35 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 474-006 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 474-6\n\nDate: March 26, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 11:22 am and 11:35 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull\n\n     President’s schedule\n          -Meeting with Justinian Society lawyers\n                -President’s role\n                -Arrangements\n                -President’s role\n                      -John A. Volpe’s understanding\n                           -Cabinet meeting\n                -Number attending\n                -Tour of Oval Office\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:35 am","filename":["474-006.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:42:36","tapeEnd":"00:44:04","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"474-005","nextCode":"474-007","transcript":[{"start":4.82,"end":28.72,"text":"I don't know why somebody didn't get to him before the..."},{"start":29.21,"end":46.39,"text":"Well, actually, we had it, Mr. President."},{"start":47.73,"end":47.93,"text":"We had it."},{"start":47.95,"end":48.15,"text":"We had it."},{"start":48.17,"end":48.55,"text":"I know it's a year."},{"start":48.57,"end":49.47,"text":"We're going to leave it on."},{"start":49.49,"end":50.05,"text":"We spoke about it."},{"start":50.07,"end":50.89,"text":"We're going to leave it on."},{"start":50.91,"end":53.06,"text":"I guess the point is, though, see, he thought I was going to shake hands with all those people."},{"start":53.08,"end":53.54,"text":"Now, who told you that?"},{"start":53.56,"end":54.48,"text":"Wasn't he told that I'd shake hands with them?"},{"start":54.5,"end":56.22,"text":"Thirteen people showed up every morning, sir."},{"start":56.24,"end":58.16,"text":"That's his plan?"},{"start":58.18,"end":58.26,"text":"Yes."},{"start":58.28,"end":58.52,"text":"Yeah, I see."},{"start":59.65,"end":66.35,"text":"But nobody thought I was going to shake hands with the 60 and toss their mic."},{"start":66.45,"end":71.38,"text":"And no one had even considered the 60 people coming in until he said he would note."},{"start":71.4,"end":73.74,"text":"All right, get him in right away, right away, so that they know I was off soon."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull discussed logistical arrangements for an upcoming meeting with lawyers from the Justinian Society. The President expressed frustration regarding miscommunications about his expected participation, specifically concerns over shaking hands with a larger-than-expected group of attendees. To rectify the situation, Nixon instructed Bull to clarify the scheduling parameters and manage the event details promptly.","topics":["Presidential Scheduling","Justinian Society","Logistics","White House Staff","Public Relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T21:33:53.106Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","justinian-society","logistics","white-house-staff","public-relations"],"audioDurationSec":75,"audioFiles":[{"file":"474-006.mp3","bytes":1797432,"durationSec":74.83,"bitrate":192153,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:48.988Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/474-006.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/474-006","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/474/conversation-474-006","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}