{"conversationCode":"474-012","tapeNumber":474,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-474-012","startDateTime":"1971-03-26T21:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-03-26T21:59:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Mar-1971","startTime":"4:55 PM","endDate":"26-Mar-1971","endTime":"4:59 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Mitchell, John N.;","description":"On March 26, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John N. Mitchell met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:55 pm to 4:59 pm. 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Connally’s role","filename":["474-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:20:55","tapeEnd":"01:24:55","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Mitchell, John N."],"prevCode":"474-011","nextCode":"474-013","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":12.54,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":12.56,"end":12.68,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":12.7,"end":12.82,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":12.84,"end":13.3,"text":"Yeah, I'll go get that."},{"start":13.32,"end":13.9,"text":"Just a minute, just a minute."},{"start":13.92,"end":14.47,"text":"I've got to get this thing."},{"start":14.49,"end":15.09,"text":"All right, I'm prepared to go."},{"start":33.07,"end":55.38,"text":"All we're really trying to do there is to occur an embarrassing situation that I have no cause for."},{"start":55.4,"end":55.62,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":55.64,"end":56.04,"text":"Right, right, right."},{"start":61.78,"end":79.58,"text":"And so that's where we're going to stick, John, now."},{"start":79.6,"end":80.38,"text":"And this is a very complicated project."},{"start":80.4,"end":82.72,"text":"I mean, we're going to stick now on our main plan on the economy and quit this jacking around about everything else."},{"start":82.74,"end":84.16,"text":"I know that you talked about some of the things that I said last night."},{"start":84.18,"end":86.14,"text":"You know, they all talk about the way you try sports and the way you try to go past what you want."},{"start":86.16,"end":86.38,"text":"Not really."},{"start":86.4,"end":86.6,"text":"And it all"},{"start":89.97,"end":99.15,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":99.17,"end":99.27,"text":"Sure."},{"start":99.29,"end":99.49,"text":"All right."},{"start":99.51,"end":99.61,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":99.63,"end":99.83,"text":"All right."},{"start":120.2,"end":132.69,"text":"Yeah, sure."},{"start":132.71,"end":133.57,"text":"They can fly when they know he's got a gun."},{"start":133.59,"end":134.79,"text":"You can do it in this field where he doesn't make a mistake."},{"start":134.81,"end":135.41,"text":"You don't have to destroy him."},{"start":135.43,"end":136.23,"text":"That's what you're used to all the time."},{"start":146.68,"end":164.64,"text":"That's right, that's right."},{"start":164.66,"end":164.76,"text":"Okay."},{"start":164.78,"end":169.64,"text":"Right, right, right, right, right."},{"start":169.66,"end":171.99,"text":"Matter of fact, I think that just, uh, I think that those three guys last night seemed to be in pretty good trouble."},{"start":172.01,"end":173.19,"text":"They were, uh, they were, uh, they were, uh, they were, uh,"},{"start":173.17,"end":201.16,"text":"Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah."},{"start":201.18,"end":201.5,"text":"That's about it."},{"start":201.52,"end":201.94,"text":"All right, all right."},{"start":201.96,"end":202.16,"text":"All right."},{"start":203.85,"end":215.39,"text":"As a matter of fact, I think you would have been better on that subject if you'd had confidence."},{"start":215.41,"end":216.39,"text":"You know, if you know you know anything about it."},{"start":216.41,"end":217.45,"text":"You know, you know, you know, you can say something."},{"start":233.5,"end":238.6,"text":"Well, anyway, take it easy now."},{"start":238.62,"end":238.9,"text":"We'll see you."},{"start":238.92,"end":239,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Attorney General John Mitchell confer briefly regarding the administration's economic policy and public relations strategy. Nixon expresses a desire to move past political distractions and firmly commit to the administration's primary economic agenda, referencing recent interactions with business leaders. The discussion emphasizes the need for a cohesive, disciplined approach to managing economic policy and public perceptions.","topics":["Economic policy","Public relations","Wage-price controls","John B. 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