{"conversationCode":"475-007","tapeNumber":475,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-475-007","startDateTime":"1971-04-06T17:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-06T17:27:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Apr-1971","startTime":"12:25 PM","endDate":"6-Apr-1971","endTime":"12:27 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On April 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:25 pm and 12:27 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 475-007 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 475-7\n\nDate: April 6, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 12:25 pm and 12:27 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull\n\n     Photographing President during talk\n\n     President’s schedule\n          -Barber\n\n     Gifts\n             -Paper weight\n             -Signature by President\n             -Cost\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:27 pm","filename":["475-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:34:33","tapeEnd":"00:36:00","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"475-006","nextCode":"475-008","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":6.78,"text":"I really don't know why I always take these pictures."},{"start":6.8,"end":7.22,"text":"They know my story."},{"start":10.58,"end":24.35,"text":"I don't want it myself, but I don't want it for the people."},{"start":24.37,"end":25.11,"text":"It's the people that do the pictures."},{"start":25.13,"end":25.31,"text":"Screw it."},{"start":25.33,"end":25.83,"text":"They don't see it either."},{"start":25.85,"end":29.7,"text":"I want to see the pictures every day of my life, once I've read them all."},{"start":29.72,"end":29.8,"text":"Why?"},{"start":29.82,"end":30.12,"text":"The borderless."},{"start":30.14,"end":31.2,"text":"It's just a question."},{"start":31.57,"end":47.31,"text":"This is another approach in that paper we received."},{"start":47.33,"end":48.55,"text":"We didn't have a signature on it."},{"start":48.57,"end":49.31,"text":"We weren't even giving it out to you."},{"start":49.33,"end":50.19,"text":"A signature, I think, might be a good idea."},{"start":50.21,"end":51.07,"text":"It might be awkward for you sometimes, too."},{"start":51.09,"end":51.33,"text":"No, no, no."},{"start":51.35,"end":51.55,"text":"It's fine."},{"start":51.57,"end":51.77,"text":"It's fine."},{"start":51.8,"end":52.23,"text":"It doesn't cost a lot."},{"start":52.26,"end":52.84,"text":"It doesn't make a difference."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull met briefly to discuss the President’s daily schedule, including a haircut appointment, and logistics regarding photographic records of the President. The two also deliberated on the production and distribution of official gifts, specifically evaluating the cost and appropriateness of adding a presidential signature to commemorative paperweights. The conversation concluded with Nixon expressing indifference toward the administrative costs associated with these promotional materials.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Official gifts","Photography","White House administration","Stephen B. Bull"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T21:35:09.558Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","official-gifts","photography","white-house-administration","stephen-b-bull"],"audioDurationSec":55,"audioFiles":[{"file":"475-007.mp3","bytes":1331617,"durationSec":55.42,"bitrate":192234,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:48.988Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:47.190Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/475-007.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/475-007","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/475/conversation-475-007","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}