{"conversationCode":"475-020","tapeNumber":475,"conversationNumber":20,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-475-020","startDateTime":"1971-04-08T18:04:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-08T18:11:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Apr-1971","startTime":"1:04 PM","endDate":"8-Apr-1971","endTime":"1:11 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Cake, Ralph H.; Klein, Herbert G.; White House photographer;","description":"On April 8, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Ralph H. Cake, Herbert G. Klein, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:04 pm to 1:11 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 475-020 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 475-20\n\nDate: April 8, 1971\nTime: 1:04 pm - 1:11 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Ralph H. Cake and Herbert G. Klein; the White House Photographer was\npresent at the beginning of the meeting\n\n      Greetings\n\n     Photographs\n\n     Cake’s age\n\n     Photographs\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 07/24/2019.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[475-020-w001]\n[Duration: 1m 24s]\n\n     Ralph H. Cake\n          -Support for Dwight D. Eisenhower and the President\n                -Walter Williams\n          -Support for the President in 1968 elections\n                -Walter Williams\n          -Health\n          -Friendship with the President\n          -Continued support of the President\n          -Help in 1972 campaign\n          -Plan to organize support for the President\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n     Klein’s television appearances\n          -Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania\n          -”Meet the Press”\n          -”Face the Nation”\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 07/24/2019.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[475-020-w002]\n[Duration: 3m 32s]\n\n     Ralph H. Cake\n          -Plan to help establish State level organizations\n                -Build confidence in the people\n                -The President's message to the people\n                -Robert P. Burroughs and Ralph H. Cake\n                      -Work in 1956 campaign for Dwight D. Eisenhower\n                            -Organized 27 cities\n                      -Volunteers\n                      -James Michael Roche\n                            -General Motors\n                            -10,000 employees\n                -Herbert G. Klein\n                -Roger E. Johnson\n                -Qualities needed\n                -Organizers\n                -Kiwanis, Lions, and labor\n                -Need for optimists\n                -Forthcoming meeting with Herbert G. Klein\n          -The President's tactics\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n     Presentation of Presidential cufflinks\n          -Golf balls\n                -Signature and Seal\n\n     President’s greetings to Walter [Surname unknown]\n\nCake and Klein left at 1:11 pm","filename":["475-020.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:17:17","tapeEnd":"03:24:31","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Cake, Ralph H.","Klein, Herbert G.","White House photographer"],"prevCode":"475-019","nextCode":"475-021","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":5.56,"text":"Hello, Ralph."},{"start":5.58,"end":5.82,"text":"How are you?"},{"start":5.84,"end":6.26,"text":"Hello, Mr. President."},{"start":6.28,"end":6.6,"text":"Nice to see you."},{"start":6.62,"end":6.99,"text":"You're an old man."},{"start":7,"end":7.21,"text":"Thank God."},{"start":39.37,"end":41.27,"text":"Look at that grout."},{"start":41.29,"end":42.15,"text":"Get the grout so you can have the soup."},{"start":125.67,"end":139.04,"text":"You can't carry this load all along."},{"start":139.06,"end":143.97,"text":"I'm talking about getting to the people."},{"start":143.99,"end":144.71,"text":"You can only do so much."},{"start":144.73,"end":145.13,"text":"You've got to do it."},{"start":145.15,"end":145.73,"text":"You've got to do it."},{"start":147.34,"end":150.66,"text":"I had this suggestion that I made to him, Mr. President, and that was this."},{"start":150.68,"end":150.86,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":150.88,"end":151.18,"text":"How's it going?"},{"start":151.2,"end":152.16,"text":"You've been out a while, right?"},{"start":152.18,"end":155.06,"text":"I've been out an awful lot, and the worst well in the city I didn't"},{"start":155.75,"end":158.07,"text":"with Pittsburgh, Georgia, and Texas."},{"start":373.19,"end":383.75,"text":"You had the presidential cuff, didn't you?"},{"start":383.77,"end":384.11,"text":"No, I had it out."},{"start":384.13,"end":385.45,"text":"There they are."},{"start":385.47,"end":388.01,"text":"That's all you get on the day for."},{"start":388.03,"end":390.76,"text":"Well, that's where the country's always for."},{"start":390.78,"end":391.64,"text":"That's what you get if you're not a golfer."},{"start":391.66,"end":392.18,"text":"Don't ever tell them that."},{"start":392.2,"end":392.78,"text":"I won't give you a golf ball."},{"start":392.8,"end":394.38,"text":"I'll give you a golf ball anyway."},{"start":394.4,"end":394.93,"text":"If you'd like to have one."},{"start":398.69,"end":412.95,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Ralph H. Cake and Herbert G. Klein to discuss strategies for mobilizing public support for the 1972 presidential campaign. Cake proposed establishing state-level volunteer organizations to bolster the President's message, drawing upon his experience working on previous Eisenhower campaigns. 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