{"conversationCode":"476-028","tapeNumber":476,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-476-028","startDateTime":"1971-04-09T20:34:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-09T20:37:00.000Z","startDate":"9-Apr-1971","startTime":"3:34 PM","endDate":"9-Apr-1971","endTime":"3:37 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Piazza, Marguerite; Bergtholdt, F. Harry; Condon, William J.; Condon, Anna B.; Pollard, Herman Marvin (Dr.); Pollard, Herman Marvin (Mrs.); Rimer, Irving I.; Cole, Kenneth R., Jr.; White House photographer;","description":"On April 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Marguerite Piazza, F. Harry Bergtholdt, William J. Condon, Anna B. Condon, Dr. Herman Marvin Pollard, Mrs. Dr. Herman Marvin Pollard, Irving I. Rimer, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:34 pm to 3:37 pm. 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Cole, Jr.; the White House photographer and members of the press were present at the\nbeginning of the meeting\n\n      Introductions\n\n      Photo session\n\n      Presentation of award to Piazza\n           -[American Cancer Society’s Annual Courageous Person Award]\n\n      Presentation of gifts\n           -Cufflinks\n\n      Cancer research\n\n      Farewells\n\nPiazza, et al. left at 3:37 pm","filename":["476-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"06:00:23","tapeEnd":"06:06:48","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Piazza, Marguerite","Bergtholdt, F. 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President."},{"start":24.2,"end":24.7,"text":"Thank you, Mr. President."},{"start":24.68,"end":40.39,"text":"Billy."},{"start":40.41,"end":40.81,"text":"That's one boy, huh?"},{"start":40.83,"end":40.94,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":40.95,"end":41.03,"text":"Mrs."},{"start":41.05,"end":41.22,"text":"Flowers."},{"start":41.23,"end":41.31,"text":"Mrs."},{"start":41.34,"end":41.5,"text":"Flowers."},{"start":41.52,"end":42.24,"text":"And my new husband, Harry Breckholm."},{"start":42.26,"end":42.72,"text":"Yeah, very nice of you."},{"start":42.74,"end":43.08,"text":"Very nice of you."},{"start":43.1,"end":43.38,"text":"And Mr. Brian."},{"start":43.4,"end":43.46,"text":"Oh!"},{"start":43.48,"end":43.96,"text":"From the Hampshire side."},{"start":43.94,"end":67.98,"text":"Well, let's get over here where we are now."},{"start":68,"end":69.73,"text":"We're going to have a picture of this, record all of it, so we can get one group shot."},{"start":69.75,"end":70.21,"text":"This is a good passage."},{"start":70.23,"end":70.49,"text":"There you go."},{"start":70.51,"end":70.83,"text":"Oh, there's one."},{"start":70.85,"end":71.03,"text":"Look out."},{"start":73.25,"end":95.73,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":95.75,"end":95.95,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":95.97,"end":96.17,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":102.11,"end":108.22,"text":"Great."},{"start":114.17,"end":132.48,"text":"This is the other end of the wall."},{"start":132.5,"end":133.46,"text":"And this is how we do it at the end of the line."},{"start":133.48,"end":134.82,"text":"The iron can't be provided, so it's great to do it the way I do it."},{"start":134.84,"end":138.41,"text":"So I'm going to carry over another person, and I'm going to take a look at the other end of the bridge, and I'm going to give it a thousand times, and I'm going to write it down."},{"start":139.06,"end":148.48,"text":"This year, we're going to be going to be going to be going to be going to 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experience."},{"start":246.87,"end":247.07,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":247.05,"end":266.19,"text":"At this time, this may be the time that you're ready to go over."},{"start":266.21,"end":266.95,"text":"As you know, it's a question of time."},{"start":266.97,"end":267.47,"text":"We want to hear from you."},{"start":267.49,"end":267.89,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":268.44,"end":283.66,"text":"Well, we are all out."},{"start":285.66,"end":288.23,"text":"As I said in that message, if we find a result in initial research, then more next year will come."},{"start":288.2,"end":311.44,"text":"We'll have to do that."},{"start":311.46,"end":311.9,"text":"We'll have to do that."},{"start":311.92,"end":312.36,"text":"We'll have to do that."},{"start":312.38,"end":312.82,"text":"We'll have to do that."},{"start":312.84,"end":313.28,"text":"We'll have to do that."},{"start":313.3,"end":313.74,"text":"We'll have to do that."},{"start":314.36,"end":342.85,"text":"Oh, you've got it any 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