Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 477-004 Date: Monday, April 12, 1971 at 12:42 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; Bull, Stephen B. Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/477-004 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] I'm going to have lunch with some rocky fellow who, three weeks ago, was reporting about having to say nothing on Vietnam, so I... [0:16] I'll give him a little help. [0:16] That's how it is between them. [0:17] So, come on. [0:17] The three brothers, between them, have a little bit of guts, but I... [0:20] What the hell is the matter with that? [0:29] Because the American families, it's a... [0:32] It is really a tragedy. [0:33] They're so close to making it. [0:36] Well, they don't have the ground up. [0:38] So they must have talked about it. [0:39] No, they will. [0:39] They're not going to make it. [0:40] They're not going to make it. [0:40] We've got a hell of a problem here, which we'll talk about later. [0:45] You know, that little gal is a smart one. [1:02] God damn, why she doesn't talk to all these people. [1:04] She gets right in the seat and talks to all of them. [1:10] What we will do is put her on an actual committee. [1:11] She can be in charge of art and so forth. [1:12] I'll sign up for something. [1:13] I appreciate your work, the letter on that. [1:14] You know, she'll broker that all over here. [1:15] But you know, we're not really [1:25] She stayed very close, but God damn, you know, these Chinese folks, they've been out for years, and they're still fighting. [1:38] God damn, can't we fight? [1:39] What I do about hell is the matter with us. [1:43] We've got no place to go really because of it. [1:44] What they're eating, they ought to see. [1:45] They don't have a press photo on this particular fish, do they? [1:49] They do, yes, sir. [1:50] It's kind of a remarkable thing to play high art in the environment. [1:59] That's right. [2:06] So we have the curious situation because all this business about deadlines. [2:18] You, the government, that's one thing they want now. [2:22] They are terrified you're going to make it. [2:25] They know that, but all they have to do is protect your mineral rights. [2:37] You have to have a drug to know when you're withdrawing. [2:43] The thing is, where we have those is prison. [2:44] I've got to get, uh, did Colton talk to you about this line on prison? [2:45] Well, I'll talk to you about it. [2:46] We've got to get a decision on that, but we can hope so we keep the wire and stay alive. [2:50] Because those first-year gals have gone to all the spots where we stand around.