{"conversationCode":"478-006","tapeNumber":478,"conversationNumber":6,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-478-006","startDateTime":"1971-04-13T16:14:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-13T16:17:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Apr-1971","startTime":"11:14 AM","endDate":"13-Apr-1971","endTime":"11:17 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On April 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:14 am to 11:17 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 478-006 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 478-6\n\nDate: April 13, 1971\nTime: 11:14 am - 11:17 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with Charles W. Colson\n\n[See Conversation No. 1-78]","filename":["478-006.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:49:04","tapeEnd":"01:51:22","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"478-005","nextCode":"478-007","transcript":[{"start":7.02,"end":10.78,"text":"I'm meeting with the scouting officer."},{"start":11.9,"end":15.01,"text":"Do you want to come down?"},{"start":15.13,"end":17.39,"text":"Are you free?"},{"start":17.41,"end":17.79,"text":"What are you doing?"},{"start":17.81,"end":20.34,"text":"What are you doing now?"},{"start":20.36,"end":24.12,"text":"Meeting somebody?"},{"start":24.26,"end":24.76,"text":"Fine, fine, fine."},{"start":24.78,"end":24.94,"text":"Okay."},{"start":24.96,"end":26.97,"text":"Or do you want me to see them all that night?"},{"start":33.87,"end":52.86,"text":"Sure, sure, sure."},{"start":52.88,"end":55.47,"text":"All right."},{"start":55.49,"end":55.59,"text":"Sure."},{"start":60.53,"end":81.17,"text":"Yeah, yeah, I'll do that."},{"start":81.19,"end":81.41,"text":"Fine, fine."},{"start":81.43,"end":82.61,"text":"It must have been a shock."},{"start":83.95,"end":85.29,"text":"Good shit."},{"start":85.31,"end":85.75,"text":"So he's still pulling."},{"start":85.77,"end":86.31,"text":"So he knows we're watching."},{"start":86.33,"end":88.59,"text":"Well, after all, our RC was published, too, so that keeps him a little bit honest."},{"start":98.02,"end":106.39,"text":"You did?"},{"start":117.84,"end":118.06,"text":"Fine, fine."},{"start":118.08,"end":118.18,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":118.2,"end":118.31,"text":"Good."},{"start":118.33,"end":118.77,"text":"I know, I know."},{"start":118.78,"end":122.75,"text":"Well, then maybe you don't want to, well, on the other hand, you may be better."},{"start":127.34,"end":129.56,"text":"Yeah, but he was too popular, maybe."},{"start":134.68,"end":134.82,"text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":134.84,"end":135.19,"text":"Okay, fine, good."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson briefly coordinated their schedules regarding upcoming meetings and discussed ongoing efforts to monitor an unnamed individual. The dialogue touches on strategic surveillance and public perception management, suggesting that their oversight tactics were successfully keeping the subject cautious. No formal policy decisions were made, as the conversation focused primarily on operational logistics and the status of their intelligence activities.","topics":["Surveillance","Political strategy","Scheduling","Intelligence gathering","Public relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T21:41:32.394Z"},"topicSlugs":["surveillance","political-strategy","scheduling","intelligence-gathering","public-relations"],"audioDurationSec":137,"audioFiles":[{"file":"478-006.mp3","bytes":3297070,"durationSec":137.32,"bitrate":192074,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:48.989Z","transcriptGapSeconds":40,"transcriptGapShare":0.29,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/478-006.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/478-006","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/478/conversation-478-006","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}