{"conversationCode":"479-005","tapeNumber":479,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-479-005","startDateTime":"1971-04-14T17:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-14T18:05:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Apr-1971","startTime":"12:40 PM","endDate":"14-Apr-1971","endTime":"1:05 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On April 14, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:40 pm and 1:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 479-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 479-5\n\nDate: April 14, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 12:40 pm and 1:05 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull\n\n     Ronald L. Ziegler’s schedule\n                                                 38\n\n                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF\n\n                                         Tape Subject Log\n                                            (rev. 9/08)\n\n\n\n             -Meeting with President\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 1:05 pm","filename":["479-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:18:37","tapeEnd":"03:19:01","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"479-004","nextCode":"479-006","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":2,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":2.02,"end":4.08,"text":"Mr. Ziegler, come in, if he's not at lunch."},{"start":4.1,"end":4.41,"text":"All right, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate a meeting with Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. The President directed Bull to locate Ziegler and bring him to the Oval Office for a discussion regarding his official schedule. The brief interaction concluded with Bull departing to carry out the President's instructions.","topics":["Ronald L. Ziegler","White House scheduling","Presidential staff","Oval Office operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T21:42:35.955Z"},"topicSlugs":["ronald-l-ziegler","white-house-scheduling","presidential-staff","oval-office-operations"],"audioDurationSec":4,"audioFiles":[{"file":"479-005.mp3","bytes":106578,"durationSec":4.37,"bitrate":195150,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:48.988Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/479-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/479-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/479/conversation-479-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}