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Start Date: 21-Apr-1971 11:35 AM

End Date: 21-Apr-1971 12:27 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.Ziegler, Ronald L.Steenhoven, Graham B.Scali, John A.White House photographer[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:33:53

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:25:29

484-005.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 21, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Ronald L. Ziegler, Graham B. Steenhoven, John A. Scali, White House photographer, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:35 am to 12:27 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 484-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 484-5

Date: April 21, 1971
Time: 11:35 am - 12:27 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger, Ronald L. Ziegler, Graham B. Steenhoven, and John
A. Scali; the White House photographer and members of the press were present at the beginning
of the meeting

     Greetings
          -Steenhoven's photograph in newspaper
                -Trip to People’s Republic of China [PRC]
          -Seat offered
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Introductions
      -Scali
      -Kissinger

Photo session
     -Press
     -[Machine noise]

General conversation

Table tennis
     -Experience
     -National association [?]

President's meeting with Muscular Dystrophy Association of America, April 15, 1971
     -Presentation of awards
     -[Richard and Robert Santin]
     -Nebraska

Steenhoven's family

President's unknown meeting with Republican governors/wives
     -Two unknown sisters
            -Ages

Chrysler Corporation
     -Steenhoven’s father
          -Pride
     -Loyalty
     -Press
     -Steenhoven's conversation with Lynn A. Townsend, April 20, 1971
     -Publicity
     -Steenhoven's career
          -Tenure at Chrysler
          -Birthplace

US table tennis team
     -Background of members
     -Selection of team
           -Criteria
           -Japan
           -Money
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              -Japan/PRC
          -Members
              -Fifteen-year-old girl [Judy Bochenski]
              -Hungarian-born girl [Olga Soltasz]
              -Housewife [Connie Sweeris]
                    -Grand Rapids, Michigan
              -Rufford Harrison
                    -Great Britain                              Conv. No. 484-5 (cont.)
              -Black player [George Brathwaite]
                    -Guyana
              -Errol Resek
                    -Dominican Republic
              -Frank Allen
                    -California

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 11:35 am

     Refreshment

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 12:26 pm

     US table tennis team
          -Members
          -Visit to PRC
                -John Tannehill
                      -Middletown, Ohio
                      -Health
                      -Interview with reporters
                      -Steenhoven's visit to hospital
                      -Request
                            -Wish to stay in PRC
                      -Responsibilities
                      -Health
          -Hotels
                -Foreign Guests
          -Airport
                -Private lane on runway
                -Guards
          -Table tennis
                -Paddles
                Use of team “ping-pong”
                -Vice President Agnew
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            -Ping-pong
      -Grip on paddle
      -Athletes
      -Control
      -Grip on paddle
            -Comparison with golf
      -Control
      -Chinese players                              Conv. No. 484-5 (cont.)
-Steenhoven's schedule
      -Visit to Tokyo
      -Contract
      -Visit to PRC
      -Camera
      -Photographs
-Gift of television film and script
      -Copies
      -Chrysler
      -State Department
      -English script
      -Sound
      -Description
      -Chinese writing
      -Commentary
-Chou En-lai
      -Appearance
      -Intellect
      -George Yeh
      -Meeting with US players
            -Orientation
                  -Other teams
      -Canadian team
            -Marge Baldwin
      -Knowledge of English language
      -Interpreter
      -Knowledge of each group
      -Memory
      -Solicitation of criticism
      -Comments to Steenhoven
      -Luncheon
-Chinese chefs
      -Menu
      -Food
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-Cities
      -Steenhoven’s travels
-Polytechnic College
      -Trucks assembled by students
           -Gasoline
           -Description
           -Chrome
           -Chrysler                                     Conv. No. 484-5 (cont.)
           -Welding
           -Chrome
           -Professors
                 -Comments on students
                      -Peasants
                      -Workers
                      -Soldiers
           -Unknown professor's comments
                 -Mao Tse-tung
                 -Carbon Steel
-Shanghai
-Chinese people
      -Steenhoven’s view
-Wire service report
      -Thomas J. Riley
-Chinese Language
-Clothing
      -Women
           -Pants
-People
      -Steenhoven’s view
      -Health
      -Curiosity
      -Children
      -Babies
      -Mothers
      -Adults
-Shanghai
      -Crowd
      -Steenhoven's US Table Tennis Association [USTTA] Pin
      -Unknown young man
-Gifts
-Buildings
-Streets
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     -Cleanliness
     -Animals
     -Trees
-People
     -Work
     -Sleeping in streets
-Shanghai
     -Population                                      Conv. No. 484-5 (cont.)
     -Automobiles
           -Plymouths
     -Railroad station
     -Subway entrance
           -Pictures
           -Importance
           -Underground Shelter
     -Steenhoven's schedule
           -Trip to Canton
           -Gift for Wife
     -Exchange
           -US dollars
           -Money
           -Rate
     -Gifts
           -Loans
           -Press
           -Canadians
                 -Money
           -US team
-Steenhoven's leadership
     -Dick Miles
-Shanghai
     -Shopping
           -Tailors, interpreters, and officials
           -Dresses
           -Payment
           -Cost of material
           -Bill
           -Gifts for tailors
-Cunningham [Forename unknown]
     -Pins for Gifts
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Return Visit by PRC Table Tennis Team
     -Timing
     -US position
     -Importance
     -Young people
     -Swimming team
     -Basketball team
     -Planning                                                  Conv. No. 484-5 (cont.)
     -Acceptance of Steenhoven’s invitation
     -Announcement
          -Timing of acceptance of Steenhoven’s invitation to PRC
          -Steenhoven's arrival in US
          -Chou En-lai
     -Other teams

President's Meeting with American Society of Newspaper Editors [ASNE] , April 16, 1971
     -PRC
            -Chou En-lai
                 -Number of phone calls by US editors

Return Visit of PRC table tennis team
     -Travel
     -Visit of US table tennis team
     -Possible visit to US by PRC ping-pong team
     -Chinese
           -Reciprocation
     -Visit of US table tennis team
     -Return visit of PRC table tennis team
     -Visits
     -Return visit of PRC team
           -Importance
     -Chinese
     -US response
     -US press
           -Scali
     -Pressure
     -Trip to Japan
           -Demonstrations
           -South Koreans
     -Demonstrations
     -Photographers
     -President's visits to communist countries
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      -Lack of demonstrations
      -Warsaw
-Planning
-Chrysler Corporation
      -William T. Gossett
-Gossett's role
-Funding
-Significance                                              Conv. No. 484-5 (cont.)
      -Kissinger
-Visit to PRC of US table tennis team
-Steenhoven's initiatives
-Date
-Steenhoven's forthcoming letter to unknown Chinese person
-Possible itinerary
-Visit of US team to PRC
      -Itinerary
            -School
            -Commune
            -Great Wall of China
            -Chou En-lai
-Press coverage
      -Nikita Khrushchev's visit to US
-Treatment
-Visit of US team to PRC
      -Treatment
-Possible visit to Detroit
      -Bloomfield Hills
      -Hotel
      -Isolation
-Visit of US team to PRC
      -Hotels
      -Stores
      -Opera
      -Ballet
-Guidance
-Gossett's role
-US Government participation
-Press coverage
-Gossett
-Administration's position regarding foreign visits to US
      -Cooperation
      -Experience
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           -Invitation
           -Publicity
           -Scali and Gossett
           -Press
                 -Gossett

     Media
         -Forthcoming "Issues & Answers" program                 Conv. No. 484-5 (cont.)
              -Steenhoven's possible participation
              -Fay Weeden [?]
              -Steenhoven's possible participation

     Chrysler Corporation

     Presentation of gifts by the President
          -Mrs. Steenhoven
          -USTTA
          -Presidential seal
          -Cuff links
          -Presidential pen
          -Press
          -President's table tennis game
          -Golf balls

     Chrysler Corporation
          -Townsend

     The President's forthcoming conversation with Kissinger

     Farewells

Ziegler, Steenhoven, and Scali left at 12:26 pm.

     Steenhoven
          -Praised
          -Integrity
          -Press conference

     Kissinger's schedule
          -Meeting with John N. Mitchell

     The President's schedule
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           -Events
           -Meeting with Kissinger

Kissinger left at 12:27 pm



                                                                  Conv. No. 484-5 (cont.)