{"conversationCode":"484-007","tapeNumber":484,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-484-007","startDateTime":"1971-04-21T17:27:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-21T17:29:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Apr-1971","startTime":"12:27 PM","endDate":"21-Apr-1971","endTime":"12:29 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Shultz, George P.;","description":"On April 21, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and George P. Shultz met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:27 pm to 12:29 pm. 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McCracken\n\nShultz left at 12:29 pm.","filename":["484-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:25:52","tapeEnd":"03:27:39","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Shultz, George P."],"prevCode":"484-006","nextCode":"484-008","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":5.64,"text":"Oh, okay."},{"start":5.66,"end":8.95,"text":"We have a, uh, uh, conservative price index in March."},{"start":9.43,"end":9.85,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":9.87,"end":13.5,"text":"It's, uh, non-adjusted 0.3, seasonally adjusted 0.2."},{"start":13.65,"end":18.76,"text":"That's a surprise."},{"start":19.56,"end":25.61,"text":"I thought it was going to go down, but I thought we'd get 0.4."},{"start":25.62,"end":29.73,"text":"It definitely counts, of course."},{"start":29.81,"end":34.04,"text":"That's three months in a row, 0.2 or less."},{"start":34.06,"end":36.94,"text":"We have a 0.3 and 2.2."},{"start":36.92,"end":40.02,"text":"Which was a .2?"},{"start":40.18,"end":42.03,"text":"About 2.2s."},{"start":42.05,"end":45.97,"text":"Yeah, anyway, finally it's good."},{"start":46.85,"end":55.92,"text":"This is the lowest quarterly seasoning adjustment for the average, the lowest since the first quarter of 1967."},{"start":55.94,"end":57.06,"text":"Here's 1970's quarterly ratings."},{"start":57.09,"end":60.81,"text":"We had 6.2, 6.1, 4.2, 5.5, so this is way down."},{"start":61.09,"end":62.91,"text":"This is half of what it was running."},{"start":62.93,"end":65.69,"text":"Less than half of what it was running this time last year."},{"start":66.23,"end":70.1,"text":"So it's really very unadjusted."},{"start":70.26,"end":79.39,"text":"It was 2.4 of the seasonal indefinite action rates."},{"start":79.41,"end":87.64,"text":"So I thought you'd agree on that."},{"start":87.66,"end":88.12,"text":"You get some good news."},{"start":88.14,"end":88.24,"text":"Good."},{"start":88.26,"end":88.4,"text":"Thanks."},{"start":88.42,"end":88.82,"text":"We'll do this again."},{"start":88.84,"end":91.32,"text":"I would like to accidentally misconvict him to let McCracken respond."},{"start":91.34,"end":93.4,"text":"In other words, there doesn't need to be so..."},{"start":94.68,"end":97.15,"text":"Right."},{"start":97.17,"end":99.1,"text":"You don't need to say a word."},{"start":99.18,"end":99.74,"text":"What do you do?"},{"start":99.76,"end":100.16,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":100.18,"end":100.68,"text":"I'm going to pay a point."},{"start":100.7,"end":101.51,"text":"I'm going to let him do this one."},{"start":101.53,"end":101.73,"text":"All right."},{"start":101.75,"end":104.16,"text":"I'm going to call a magnum."},{"start":104.17,"end":104.76,"text":"That's a three-four positive."},{"start":104.78,"end":106.04,"text":"Three-four positive lines."},{"start":106.06,"end":106.26,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and George Shultz met to review favorable Consumer Price Index (CPI) figures for March, which indicated inflation was slowing to its lowest quarterly rate since 1967. They analyzed the positive economic data, noting it was significantly lower than the previous year's performance. The President decided to have Paul McCracken handle the public briefing on these results to maintain a professional, low-profile presentation of the improved economic indicators.","topics":["Consumer Price Index","Inflation","Economic policy","Paul McCracken","Economic indicators"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T21:50:22.372Z"},"topicSlugs":["consumer-price-index","inflation","economic-policy","paul-mccracken","economic-indicators"],"audioDurationSec":107,"audioFiles":[{"file":"484-007.mp3","bytes":2572328,"durationSec":107.1,"bitrate":192135,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:48.990Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/484-007.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/484-007","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/484/conversation-484-007","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}