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Start Date: 23-Apr-1971 9:15 AM

End Date: 23-Apr-1971 10:10 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Butterfield, Alexander P.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:01:34

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:50:54

487-001.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:15 am to 10:10 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 487-001 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 487-1

Date: April 23, 1971
Time: 9:15 am - 10:10 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.

     The President's schedule, April 27, 1971
          -Clark MacGregor
          -Cabinet meeting
               -Timing
               -James D. Hodgson's possible briefing
                      -John D. Ehrlichman
                      -Unemployment
                      -Duration
                      -Administration program
                           -Jobs
                                 -Youth
                                 -Veterans
               -National Center for Voluntary Action [NCVA]
                      -Reception
                           -Timing
                           -Duration
                           -Attendance
                                 -Number
                           -Cabinet
                           -Press coverage
                                 -President’s instructions

H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 9:20 am.

                                 -Pictures

     The President's schedule, May 9, 1971
          -Mothers' Day
          -Worship service
               -Minister
                      -Race
                      -Black
                      -William F. (“Billy”) Graham
                      -Ehrlichman
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          -Religion
               -Catholic
               -Protestant
                      -Mid-West
          -Minister
               -Black
                      -Paul Goodwin
                            -Graham                         Conv. No. 487-1 (cont.)
               -Black
                      -Graham
          -[Unintelligible name]
               -Kenneth W. Clawson
               -Availability
               -Health
               -Availability
               -Penelope M. (“Penny”) Adams
               -Performer

The President's schedule, April 23, 1971
     -Open door hour
          -Elton Stevens
                 -Winston M. (“Red”) Blount’s view
                 -Medal of Honor League
                 -Alabama
                 -Congressman
                      -John H. Buchanan, Jr.
                 -Chamber of Commerce
                 -Photograph
                 -Buchanan
                      -Blount

The President's schedule, April 27, 1971
     -Ronald L. Ziegler
     -Clawson
     -Cabinet meeting
     -Hodgson
     -Elliot L. Richardson
           -Report regarding White House Youth Conference
                 -Cabinet meeting
                 -Length
                 -Cuts
                 -Paragraphs
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                       -Cuts
                       -Leonard Garment

Butterfield left at 9:25 am.

     The President's schedule, April 23, 1971
          -Meeting with Richardson
               -Youth Conference                                    Conv. No. 487-1 (cont.)

     Youth Conference
         -Report
              -President’s position
                    -Compared with obscenity report

     The President's schedule, April 27, 1971
          -Cabinet meeting
               -Richardson's Youth Conference report
               -Hodgson’s report
                      -Length

     Youth Conference
         -Stephen Hess
         -Unknown Congressman
         -Invitations
               -President’s position
               -Schools
         -Representation
         -Task forces
               -Peter G. Peterson
                     -Geno [Surname unknown sp?]
                          -Harlem
                          -Radical
                     -Unknown man from Wisconsin
                     -Unknown girl

     American youth
         -Conduct

     Youth Conference
         -Representation
         -“Squares”
         -Representation
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                -4-H clubs
                      -Number
                -Radicals
           -Hess
           -Publicity
                -Possible White House response
                -Patrick J. Buchanan
                -Lyndon K. (“Mort”) Allin                              Conv. No. 487-1 (cont.)

     Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
         -Trip to People's Republic of China [PRC]
                -Henry A. Kissinger
                -Haldeman's conversation with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

     Cabinet
          -John A. Volpe
          -William P. Rogers’ schedule
                -Press conference
                -Trip to Europe
          -Volpe

Kissinger entered at 9:28 am.

     Anatoliy F. Dobrynin's schedule
          -Dobrynin’s call to Kissinger


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      -Kissinger's schedule

PRC
      -Mansfield's letter
            -Norodom Sihanouk
      -Chou En-lai
      -Mansfield's letter
            -Trip                                          Conv. No. 487-1 (cont.)
            -President’s concern
            -Chinese reaction
            -Soviet Union
            -Sihanouk
            -Timing of visit
            -Chinese reaction
      -Mansfield and Hugh Scott
      -Possible US initiatives
            -Need for communication
      -Visits by public officials
            -Mansfield
      -Romania
            -Corneliu Bogdan
      -Visits by US public officials
            -Message to the Chinese
            -Administration's position
      -US relations
      -Contacts
            -Administration’s position
      -Mansfield's visit
            -Possible impact
            -Press
            -Bipartisanship
            -Administration response
                  -Strategy

Soviet Union
     -Edmund S. Muskie's visit
          -Compared with possible PRC visit by Mansfield
          -Results
          -Soviet strategy
          -Publicity
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PRC and Mansfield
    -Mansfield visit
          -Ping-pong team
          -Compared with Muskie’s visit to Moscow
          -Impact
          -Publicity
                -Compared with Moon Landing
          -US strategy                                  Conv. No. 487-1 (cont.)
    -Possible invitation to Mansfield
    -Ping-pong team invitation
          -[Forename unknown] Maynard [?]
    -Sihanouk role
          -Mansfield and Maureen (Hayes)Mansfield
    -Chou En-lai
    -Sihanouk
    -Kissinger possible initiatives
    -General Vernon A. Walters
          -Possible involvement
    -Contacts
    -Mansfield visit
          -President’s view
    -State Department
    -President's position
    -Romanians
    -US relations
    -Contacts
    -Political visits
    -Mansfield visit
          -Bipartisan participation
    -Political visits
          -Administration's position
          -Timing
          -Procedures
          -People-to-people
          -Bipartisan participation
    -Mansfield visit
          -Impact
          -Strategy
          -Envoy
          -Bipartisan participation
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                 -President's initiative
                 -Candidates
                 -Scott

     Kissinger's schedule
          -Forthcoming meeting with Dobrynin
                -Location
                                                                        Conv. No. 487-1 (cont.)
     US and Soviet Union negotiations
          -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
          -Possible summit meeting

     Vietnam negotiations
          -Kissinger's schedule
               -Paris
               -North Vietnamese
          -Walters’ role
               -US strategy
                     -Timing
          -Kissinger's schedule

     Kissinger's schedule
          -Bogdan

     Youth conference
         -President's upcoming conversation with Haldeman
         -President’s view
         -Kissinger’s view

[Transcript #1: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

     Vietnam
          -Administration opponents
               -Communist takeover
          -Administration's position
               -Public relations efforts
          -Deadline for withdrawal
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-Television news program, April 22, 1971
     -Democrats
           -Coverage
           -Length
           -Prisoners of war [POWs]
                 -World War II
                 -Germany
     -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson                    Conv. No. 487-1 (cont.)
     -Hubert H. Humphrey's view
           -Dwight D. Eisenhower administration
     -Eisenhower administration
           -US personnel in Vietnam
                 -Compared with 1971
-John F. Kennedy administration
     -Personnel in Vietnam
-Republicans
-Haldeman's staff meeting
     -Reaction
     -Charles W. Colson's staff
     -Media
-Television news program, April 22, 1971
     -American Broadcasting Company [ABC]
     -Audience
     -Democrats
     -Humphrey
           -Build-up
     -Audience
-Humphrey
     -Responsibility
-Kissinger's meeting with Australian Ambassador
     -Sir James Plimsoll
     -Foreign Minister Leslie H.E. Bury
     -Plimsoll's travels in US
           -President's opponents
-Republicans
     -Administration supporters
     -Colson
     -Senators
           -Press coverage
           -William B. Saxbe
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                     -Scott
                 -News summary
                     -Coverage

[Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not Conv.
                                                                           guarantee
                                                                                 No. its
                                                                                     487-1
                                                                                         accuracy.]
                                                                                            (cont.)

[End of transcript]

     Congressional hearings
         -William H. Sullivan
               -Media coverage
         -Edward M. Kennedy
               -Media coverage
         -Sullivan's schedule
               -Press conference
                     -Questions
                     -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
         -Administration's position

     Vietnam
          -President's meeting with Congressional hawks
                -Senators
                -Southerners
          -Congress
                -Possible poll
                      -Results
                -Democrats
                -Attitude
                -Doves
                -Hearings
                      -Sullivan
                      -Senators
                -Administration supporters
                      -[Thomas] Hale Boggs
          -Media
                -Ziegler
          -Congress
                -Boggs
          -Television
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           -Eric Sevaried
           -Boggs

Joseph McCarthy
     -Communists
         -State Department
     -Boggs
                                                           Conv. No. 487-1 (cont.)
Press corps
      -President’s view
      -White House swimming pool

PRC initiative
    -Media reaction
    -Press
           -Washington Post, April 23, 1971
               -Donald Oberdorfer, Jr.
    -Credits

US and Soviet Union negotiations
     -Kissinger's schedule
     -Possible Soviet proposals
     -US position
          -Strategy
                -Vietnam

PRC
      -US strategy
      -Soviet Union

Vietnam negotiations
     -North Vietnamese position
          -Deadline for US withdrawal
          -Stewart J.O. Alsop
          -Communist Takeover
          -Kissinger’s view
          -Economic and military aid to South Vietnam

Kissinger's schedule
     -Woodstock conference
           -Prince Bernhard
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Democrats
    -Possible administration counterattacks

John B. Connally's activities
     -Washington Post
     -Editorial conference
     -Public relations efforts
                                                           Conv. No. 487-1 (cont.)
Paul A. Samuelson
     -Economy
     -Criticism of administration
     -Opposition to the President
     -Barry M. Goldwater
     -Positions

Economy
    -Outlook
    -Democrat candidates

Administration foreign policy initiatives
    -Democrat candidates

Haldeman's previous staff meeting
     -President’s foreign policy
           -Staff reaction

Congress
    -Attacks on administration
    -President's Vietnam policy

Haldeman's previous staff meeting
     -MacGregor and William E. Timmons
     -Staff morale
     -Defeatism

President’s policies
     -Outlook
           -Congressional Republicans
                 -Howard H. Baker, Jr.
     -Public relations
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Vietnam
     -Outlook
     -Congress
          -Administration critics
          -MacGregor
          -Jacob K. Javits
                -Letter from the President
                -Opposition to the President              Conv. No. 487-1 (cont.)
     -Kissinger's letter to David K.E. Bruce
          -Ellsworth F. Bunker
     -Bruce's possible initiatives
     -Possible US proposals
          -Ceasefire
                -Publicity
          -Press
     -Bruce

Foreign Service
     -Bruce and Bunker
          -Ages
     -[David] Kenneth Rush
          -Experience
          -Bunker and Bruce
          -Possible assignment
                -Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
          -Present role
                -US Ambassador to Germany

Office of Emergency Preparedness
     -General George A. Lincoln
           -Replacement
           -Effectiveness
           -National Security Council (NSC)
     -George W. Anderson
           -Military background
     -Job
     -Staff
     -Anderson
           -Navy
                 -Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
     -Lincoln
     -General Leonard F. Chapman, Jr.
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           -Anderson
           -Chapman
                -Public relations ability
                -Television
           -Anderson and Chapman
           -Chapman as spokesman

     Cabinet                                                       Conv. No. 487-1 (cont.)
          -Need for public relations efforts
               -President and Connally
               -Administration spokesmen

     Office of Emergency Preparedness
          -Chapman's television appearance
          -Anderson
          -Chapman
                -Age
          -Melvin R. Laird
          -Joint Chiefs of Staff
          -Chapman
                -Political effectiveness
          -Anderson and Chapman
          -Army
          -Job

     US and Soviet negotiations
          -Kissinger's forthcoming meeting with Dobrynin
          -Prospects
          -Dobrynin
          -Possible Soviet stance
          -US position
          -Discussions
          -Issues
                -Summit meeting
          -Rush
          -US stance
          -Kissinger's role

Kissinger left at 10:03 am.
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     Polls
             -Release
             -Media

     Network suit
         -John N. Mitchell
         -Administration position
         -Repression                                                    Conv. No. 487-1 (cont.)
         -Anti-administration bias

[Transcript #3: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

     Public relations
          -Administration opponents
          -Administration supporters
          -Activities
          -Veterans
                 -Marine Corps

     Italy
             -John A. Volpe
                   -Possible ambassadorship
                          -Embassy staff
             -Prime Minister Emilio Colombo
                   -Giuseppe Saragat
                          -Possible visit to US
                          -Foreign Minister Aldo Moro
             -Saragat's possible visit
                   -US position
                   -Colombo
             -Volpe
             -Saragat's possible visit
                   -Academic degree
                   -Meeting with the President
             -State visit
                   -Moro
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     Congressional hearings
         -Administration spokesmen
               -Performance
         -John F. Kerry
               -Vietnam veterans
               -Political aspirations
               -Massachusetts
               -Ambitions                                              Conv. No. 487-1 (cont.)
               -[Unintelligible name]

Haldeman left at 10:10 am.