{"conversationCode":"487-004","tapeNumber":487,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-487-004","startDateTime":"1971-04-23T15:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-23T15:38:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Apr-1971","startTime":"10:35 AM","endDate":"23-Apr-1971","endTime":"10:38 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Mulcahy, John A. (\"Jack\");","description":"On April 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John A. (\"Jack\") Mulcahy met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:35 am to 10:38 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 487-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 487-4\n\nDate: April 23, 1971\nTime: 10:35 am - 10:38 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with John A. (“Jack”) Mulcahy.\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 08/10/2019.\n1m 12s segment cleared for release. 53s remain closed as 487-004-w002.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[487-004-w002]\n[Duration: 1m 12s]\n\n[See Conversation No. 2-33]\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n[Personal Returnable]\n[487-004-w002]\n[Duration: 53s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n**********************************************************************","filename":["487-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:14:30","tapeEnd":"01:17:41","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Mulcahy, John A. (\"Jack\")"],"prevCode":"487-003","nextCode":"487-005","transcript":[{"start":140.08,"end":142.27,"text":"while you take care of your Norwegian."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with John A. “Jack” Mulcahy in the Oval Office for a brief, informal discussion. The conversation remains largely restricted due to the withdrawal of personal material, leaving only a short segment available for research. No significant policy decisions or administrative actions were recorded in the accessible portion of the transcript.","topics":["Oval Office","Presidential records","John A. Mulcahy","Personal communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T21:52:40.308Z"},"topicSlugs":["oval-office","presidential-records","john-a-mulcahy","personal-communication"],"audioDurationSec":171,"audioFiles":[{"file":"487-004.mp3","bytes":4098924,"durationSec":170.73,"bitrate":192070,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:48.989Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/487-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/487-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/487/conversation-487-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}