{"conversationCode":"487-009","tapeNumber":487,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-487-009","startDateTime":"1971-04-23T17:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-23T17:28:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Apr-1971","startTime":"12:20 PM","endDate":"23-Apr-1971","endTime":"12:28 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Newton, Michael; Newton, Richard (Lt.); Newton, Richard (Mrs.); Switzer, Mary; Merrill, Edward C., Jr.; Porter, Edgar B.; Dunn, Bradley P.; Segrest, Susan; Haimbach, Mary; Luzak, Karen; Bell, George T.; Huebner, Lee W.; White House photographer;","description":"On April 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Michael Newton, Richard Newton, Mrs. Richard Newton, Mary Switzer, Edward C. Merrill, Jr., Edgar B. Porter, Bradley P. Dunn, Susan Segrest, Mary Haimbach, Karen Luzak, George T. Bell, Lee W. Huebner, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:20 pm to 12:28 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 487-009 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 487-9\n\nDate: April 23, 1971\nTime: 12:20 pm - 12:28 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Michael Newton, Lt. and Mrs. Richard Newton, Mary Switzer, Edward\nC. Merrill, Jr., Edgar B. Porter, Bradley P. Dunn, Susan Segrest, Mary Haimbach, Karen Luzak,\n\nGeorge T. Bell, and Lee W. Huebner.\n\n[The White House photographer and members of the press were present at the beginning of the\nmeeting.]\n\n     Introductions\n           -Michael Newton\n     Photographs\n\n     [Camera noise]\n\n     Photographs\n\n     [General conversation]\n\nManolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:20 pm.\n\n     Cookies\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 12:28 pm.\n\n     [General conversation]\n\n     [Camera noise]\n\n     [Laughter]\n\n     Photograph\n          -Groupings\n          -Girls\n\n     Luzak\n          -Teacher\n          -Work\n\n     Council\n         -Hearing and speech\n\n     Presentation of gifts\n          -Cuff links\n                -Men\n          -Presidential seal\n\n                -Ladies\n           -Viewmaster\n\n     Better Hearing and Speech Month campaign\n          -Children\n                -Hearing\n                -Compensation\n                -Personality\n          -Michael Newton\n                -Accomplishment\n          -Work of council\n\n     Contributions for work\n\nMichael Newton, et al., left at 12:28 pm.","filename":["487-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:41:43","tapeEnd":"02:50:38","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Newton, Michael","Newton, Richard (Lt.)","Newton, Richard (Mrs.)","Switzer, Mary","Merrill, Edward C., Jr.","Porter, Edgar B.","Dunn, Bradley P.","Segrest, Susan","Haimbach, Mary","Luzak, Karen","Bell, George T.","Huebner, Lee W.","White House photographer"],"prevCode":"487-008","nextCode":"487-010","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":24.97,"text":"You know, Mr. President, Mr. President, this is new for the Senate movement, and you're right, we're going to have a poster child in here."},{"start":25.73,"end":26.05,"text":"So this is Mike."},{"start":26.07,"end":26.45,"text":"He's our president."},{"start":26.47,"end":27.31,"text":"So he said, I'm going to give this to you."},{"start":27.33,"end":28.65,"text":"I'm not the president, but I'm the president of the United States."},{"start":28.63,"end":39.85,"text":"I don't want to scare you."},{"start":40.85,"end":52.37,"text":"There you are."},{"start":52.39,"end":52.57,"text":"Watch me."},{"start":92.41,"end":101.33,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":104.22,"end":130.68,"text":"Do you like that man?"},{"start":130.66,"end":151.08,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":166.99,"end":191.84,"text":"No, no, no."},{"start":194.13,"end":208.44,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":248.26,"end":256.45,"text":"One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight."},{"start":261.83,"end":290.4,"text":"Now, come on."},{"start":290.42,"end":290.76,"text":"Oh, there you go."},{"start":292.81,"end":300.04,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":315.76,"end":329.95,"text":"He goes to Virgin Island."},{"start":329.97,"end":330.37,"text":"He's got a sailboat."},{"start":330.39,"end":330.61,"text":"He's great."},{"start":330.63,"end":332.11,"text":"We'll have a picture of him with all of the other members of the audience."},{"start":332.13,"end":333.43,"text":"We'll have a picture of him in the air."},{"start":333.41,"end":355.22,"text":"Now, everybody look out."},{"start":355.2,"end":368.58,"text":"All right, now, if you will drop out this week, and the girls."},{"start":368.6,"end":369.04,"text":"Two on the other side."},{"start":369.06,"end":369.22,"text":"Come on."},{"start":369.24,"end":369.66,"text":"Now, now we gotta go."},{"start":374.35,"end":395.77,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":395.8,"end":396.2,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":396.22,"end":396.5,"text":"There you are."},{"start":396.52,"end":397.22,"text":"You're all the greatest in my life."},{"start":397.24,"end":397.54,"text":"Thank you, too."},{"start":397.56,"end":397.88,"text":"I wish you well."},{"start":397.9,"end":398.1,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":398.12,"end":398.58,"text":"You're doing all right."},{"start":398.6,"end":398.8,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":398.82,"end":399.72,"text":"I have great parents, and you're the teacher."},{"start":399.74,"end":400.74,"text":"Well, thanks to you, what a wonderful work you do."},{"start":400.76,"end":401.04,"text":"Oh, thank you."},{"start":401.06,"end":402.7,"text":"I wish I could have been a writer for six years, and I'm too old to be a teenager."},{"start":402.72,"end":402.88,"text":"Too old?"},{"start":402.9,"end":403.68,"text":"You're not old enough to be a teenager."},{"start":403.66,"end":421.37,"text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":421.39,"end":422.97,"text":"You're not in the teaching work, but you're a licensed member of the committee."},{"start":422.99,"end":423.57,"text":"What are the council minutes?"},{"start":423.59,"end":423.71,"text":"Right."},{"start":423.73,"end":423.85,"text":"Right."},{"start":423.87,"end":424.03,"text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":424.05,"end":424.25,"text":"All right."},{"start":424.27,"end":424.47,"text":"All right."},{"start":424.93,"end":441.97,"text":"This is the presidential seal, which you can wear."},{"start":447.71,"end":461.29,"text":"I almost implored every part of it for the years."},{"start":462.19,"end":462.63,"text":"Heroes of those times."},{"start":462.65,"end":463.13,"text":"And here's a new master."},{"start":465.73,"end":486.37,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":489.98,"end":516.53,"text":"What happens, you see, is that when a child is, or any person, as we all know, when he doesn't have one specialty, like purity, at all, then what he does is actually compensate by all these other factors, personality, to a greater degree, or even loyalty."},{"start":516.55,"end":516.85,"text":"It's marvelous."},{"start":516.87,"end":517.17,"text":"Well, you know,"},{"start":517.15,"end":525.74,"text":"We're proud of what you're doing."},{"start":525.76,"end":526.35,"text":"Thank you, Mr. President."},{"start":526.37,"end":527.33,"text":"We'll be doing a few contributions to your work."},{"start":527.35,"end":527.57,"text":"I know you."},{"start":527.59,"end":528.25,"text":"We'll try to help you all we can."},{"start":528.27,"end":528.48,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with representatives from the Council for Hearing and Speech, including Michael Newton, the campaign's poster child, to discuss the \"Better Hearing and Speech Month\" initiative. The gathering served as a public relations event to highlight the work of the council and recognize the accomplishments of hearing-impaired children. 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