{"conversationCode":"487-013","tapeNumber":487,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-487-013","startDateTime":"1971-04-23T17:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-23T17:42:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Apr-1971","startTime":"12:41 PM","endDate":"23-Apr-1971","endTime":"12:42 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Cashen, Henry C., II; Cashen, Raymond; Cashen, Raymond (Mrs.); Sax, Arnold; Sax, Arnold (Mrs.);","description":"On April 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry C. Cashen, II, Raymond Cashen, Mrs. Raymond Cashen, Arnold Sax, and Mrs. Arnold Sax met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:41 pm to 12:42 pm. 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Cashen, II, Mr. & Mrs. Raymond Cashen, and Mr.\n& Mrs. Arnold Sax .\n[The White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.]\n\n     Introductions\n\n     Henry Cashen's job performance\n          -Irish\n\n     Photograph\n          -Grouping\n\n     Presentation of gifts\n          -Pens\n          -Presidential cuff links\n                -Seal\n\n     Farewells\n     Rose Garden\n\n           -Tulips\n           -Flowers\n\n     Henry Cashen's job performance\n\n     John A. Mulcahy\n\nCashen, et al., left at 12:42 pm.","filename":["487-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:01:37","tapeEnd":"03:05:07","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Cashen, Henry C., II","Cashen, Raymond","Cashen, Raymond (Mrs.)","Sax, Arnold","Sax, Arnold (Mrs.)"],"prevCode":"487-012","nextCode":"487-014","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":15.11,"text":"Thank you for that time."},{"start":15.13,"end":15.87,"text":"Oh, he's done a marvelous job for us."},{"start":15.89,"end":16.23,"text":"We appreciate it."},{"start":20.96,"end":29.29,"text":"Oh, that's right."},{"start":29.31,"end":32.12,"text":"Well, we're glad to meet you again here."},{"start":32.14,"end":36.33,"text":"Yeah, Henry's one of our real, real goers, you know."},{"start":36.35,"end":38.19,"text":"He said, hey, why don't we get you a picture?"},{"start":38.21,"end":38.39,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":46.07,"end":65.53,"text":"Everybody, you can sit on this side if you will."},{"start":65.55,"end":67.92,"text":"Thank you, there you go."},{"start":67.94,"end":68.86,"text":"And I'm gonna make a nice little picture for ."},{"start":68.88,"end":69.22,"text":"He took six then."},{"start":69.24,"end":71.16,"text":"And for special visitors, the important people at the corner."},{"start":71.18,"end":71.8,"text":"Here's your little tent."},{"start":73.37,"end":82.3,"text":"I think it's the other one, which you see also in the city."},{"start":82.32,"end":83.14,"text":"I'm going to give it one try."},{"start":85.57,"end":93.92,"text":"It's already covered today."},{"start":93.94,"end":95.14,"text":"That's that."},{"start":95.26,"end":96.24,"text":"Better out."},{"start":96.86,"end":99.4,"text":"It'd be nice if I know what's going to happen."},{"start":99.42,"end":99.54,"text":"Sweet."},{"start":99.56,"end":100.62,"text":"Did you check the new girls here?"},{"start":100.64,"end":100.98,"text":"I have a present."},{"start":101,"end":101.33,"text":"You have?"},{"start":102.07,"end":102.27,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":103.29,"end":103.79,"text":"Oh, isn't that beautiful?"},{"start":104.39,"end":104.59,"text":"Beautiful."},{"start":104.61,"end":105.17,"text":"Those tulips and everything."},{"start":105.19,"end":106.99,"text":"I don't know much about flowers, but I know those are tulips and crap apple trees."},{"start":107.29,"end":107.73,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":107.75,"end":107.99,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":108.01,"end":109.81,"text":"I'd be mighty proud if you does a great job for us."},{"start":109.83,"end":110.03,"text":"Wonderful."},{"start":110.05,"end":111.38,"text":"Thanks to you."},{"start":111.98,"end":116.27,"text":"Okay, oh great job"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Henry C. Cashen, II, his family, and associates for a brief social visit in the Oval Office. The President used the meeting to commend Henry Cashen’s job performance within the administration. The session primarily focused on casual conversation, the taking of a commemorative photograph, and the presentation of gifts, including presidential cuff links.","topics":["Henry C. 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