{"conversationCode":"488-005","tapeNumber":488,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-488-005","startDateTime":"1971-04-26T12:22:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-26T13:00:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Apr-1971","startTime":"8:22 AM","endDate":"26-Apr-1971","endTime":"9:00 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On April 26, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:22 am and 9:00 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 488-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 488-5\n\nDate: April 26, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 8:22 am and 9:00 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President dictated a memorandum for H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman at an unknown time between\n8:22 and 9:00 am.\n\n     Buildings\n          -Lighting\n          -Pan American building\n          -Red Cross\n          -Daughters of the American Revolution [DAR]\n\n     Wiley Mayne\n          -National Airport\n               -Change of name\n                     -Eisenhower Airport\n                     -President's position\n                     -Legislation\n\n     Distribution of memorandum\n           -[Unintelligible]\n\n     William F. (“Billy”) Graham\n          -Ministers\n                -McNutter [Forename unknown]\n                -White House worship service\n                -Black\n                -Conservatives","filename":["488-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:06:53","tapeEnd":"00:08:15","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"488-004","nextCode":"488-006","transcript":[{"start":8.59,"end":33.99,"text":"What progress has been made on the end of the Pan American building, the Red Cross building, the VAR building?"},{"start":34.01,"end":36.5,"text":"That means the Congressman from Iowa has introduced a bill to change the name of the National Airport to Eisenhower Airport."},{"start":36.52,"end":38.24,"text":"I think this is an excellent idea to see whether we can do it without any legislation."},{"start":39.6,"end":64.33,"text":"If not, see, we can give a little push for legislation."},{"start":64.35,"end":67.02,"text":"This memorandum should go to... Graham suggested a minister by the name of McNutter, M-C-R-U-N-U-T-T-E-R. What else are the services?"},{"start":67.03,"end":68.24,"text":"Would you check with him to see if he'll get them to happen?"},{"start":68.26,"end":69.14,"text":"That's certainly one of our future services."},{"start":70.06,"end":76.82,"text":"Also, Grant."},{"start":76.84,"end":77.02,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":77.04,"end":78.2,"text":"Negro, Master."},{"start":78.22,"end":80.67,"text":"Negro, I'm sure he's one of the conservative masters."},{"start":80.69,"end":81.25,"text":"I'm one of the left-handers."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon dictates a series of administrative tasks to H.R. Haldeman, focusing on infrastructure improvements to Washington, D.C. area buildings and potential renaming of the National Airport to honor Dwight D. Eisenhower. The President explores ways to rename the airport without requiring formal legislation, though he remains open to lobbying Congress if necessary. Additionally, Nixon discusses arrangements for future White House worship services, specifically requesting outreach to Billy Graham regarding the inclusion of diverse, conservative-leaning ministers.","topics":["Washington National Airport","Dwight D. Eisenhower","White House worship services","Billy Graham","Urban planning","Legislative strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T21:54:53.531Z"},"topicSlugs":["washington-national-airport","dwight-d-eisenhower","white-house-worship-services","billy-graham","urban-planning","legislative-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":81,"audioFiles":[{"file":"488-005.mp3","bytes":3259873,"durationSec":81.35,"bitrate":320578,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:48.989Z","transcriptGapSeconds":50,"transcriptGapShare":0.62,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/488-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/488-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/488/conversation-488-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}