{"conversationCode":"488-021","tapeNumber":488,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-488-021","startDateTime":"1971-04-27T16:46:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-27T17:10:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Apr-1971","startTime":"12:46 PM","endDate":"27-Apr-1971","endTime":"1:10 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"[Unknown person(s)];","description":"On April 27, 1971, unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and 1:10 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 488-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 488-21\n\nDate: April 27, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 12:46 pm and 1:10 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nUnknown people met.\n\n     President’s location\n          -Schedule\n\nThe conversation was cut off at an unknown time before 1:10 pm.","filename":["488-021.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:00:52","tapeEnd":"03:01:23","participantsList":["[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"488-020","nextCode":"488-022","transcript":[{"start":21.19,"end":24,"text":"I need someone to take this building away from us."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"An unidentified individual discussed the administrative burden of managing a specific building with President Nixon, expressing a desire to divest the administration of the property. The conversation reflects internal logistical frustrations regarding government real estate holdings. No concrete resolution was reached before the recording was cut off.","topics":["Property management","Government administration","Logistics","Real estate"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T21:56:22.350Z"},"topicSlugs":["property-management","government-administration","logistics","real-estate"],"audioDurationSec":31,"audioFiles":[{"file":"488-021.mp3","bytes":1228591,"durationSec":30.59,"bitrate":321349,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:48.989Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/488-021.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/488-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/488/conversation-488-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}