{"conversationCode":"488-023","tapeNumber":488,"conversationNumber":23,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-488-023","startDateTime":"1971-04-27T20:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-27T20:57:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Apr-1971","startTime":"4:52 PM","endDate":"27-Apr-1971","endTime":"4:57 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On April 27, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:52 pm and 4:57 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 488-023 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 488-23\n\nDate: April 27, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 4:52 pm and 4:57 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     President's schedule\n           -Meeting with National Voluntary Action Committee leadership\n                 -Henry Ford II\n                 -Reception\n                 -Timing\n           -Elmer H. Bobst\n           -Rose Mary Woods\n           -Voluntary action leadership\n                 -Location\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 4:57 pm.","filename":["488-023.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:13:23","tapeEnd":"03:15:06","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"488-022","nextCode":"488-024","transcript":[{"start":5.8,"end":20.12,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":20.14,"end":20.7,"text":"Is it one of the receptions?"},{"start":20.72,"end":21,"text":"No, it wasn't."},{"start":21.02,"end":21.6,"text":"I had to see it in my office."},{"start":21.62,"end":22.22,"text":"He said, I'll see you at 5.30."},{"start":22.24,"end":24.45,"text":"He says, if I attend it, it's 10 minutes to 6."},{"start":24.47,"end":24.81,"text":"He says, 30?"},{"start":24.83,"end":27.35,"text":"Yes, but I don't want them to wait 20 minutes."},{"start":27.37,"end":28.95,"text":"I don't believe they are arriving that early, but I'll check."},{"start":28.97,"end":30.7,"text":"I'm pretty sure people are asking to arrive 5 or 10 minutes before he has it."},{"start":35.2,"end":37.69,"text":"I don't care."},{"start":38.31,"end":39.5,"text":"I'll see."},{"start":40.76,"end":41.33,"text":"I'll see him."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull coordinate the scheduling and logistics for an upcoming meeting with the National Voluntary Action Committee leadership, including Henry Ford II. The discussion centers on preventing excessive wait times for attendees at an evening reception. Bull is tasked with verifying the arrival times of participants to ensure the President's schedule remains efficient.","topics":["Presidential schedule","National Voluntary Action Committee","Henry Ford II","White House logistics","Stephen B. Bull"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T21:56:33.726Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","national-voluntary-action-committee","henry-ford-ii","white-house-logistics","stephen-b-bull"],"audioDurationSec":63,"audioFiles":[{"file":"488-023.mp3","bytes":2510681,"durationSec":62.64,"bitrate":320650,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:48.989Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/488-023.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/488-023","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/488/conversation-488-023","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}