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Start Date: 26-Apr-1971 11:46 AM

End Date: 26-Apr-1971 12:57 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Kissinger, Henry A.Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:05:03

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:19:50

489a.mp3

489b.mp3

489c.mp3

489d.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 26, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Henry A. Kissinger, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:46 am and 12:57 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 489-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 489-5

Date: April 26, 1971
Time: Unknown between 11:46 am and 12:07 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 9/08)



     President's schedule
          -Upcoming Congressional half-hour
                 -Frequency
          -Previous Chamber of Commerce speech
                 -Haldeman’s reaction
                 -Examples
                 -Rio Grande High School
                       -Demonstrations                           Conv. No. 489-5 (cont.)
                 -William L. Safire
                       -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
                 -Freedom
                 -Lines
                 -Foreign aid
                       -Examples
                 -History
                       -Importance of using examples

Henry A. Kissinger entered at 11:52 am.

     United Nations [UN] Anniversary Commission
          -Report
          -Henry Cabot Lodge
               -Ronald L. Ziegler
          -John A. Scali

     Vietnam
          -Lodge
               -Prisoners of War [POWs]
               -Possible conversation with the President

     Kissinger's schedule
          -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin

     President's schedule
          -Haldeman
          -Press

Haldeman left at an unknown time before 12:07 pm.
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 9/08)



     Vietnam
          -North Vietnamese military activity
               -Possible US military response
                    -Bombing
                    -Rationale

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under court order from
December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums, Conv. et
                                                                                No.al.489-5
                                                                                       v. James
                                                                                            (cont.)
                                                                                                M.
Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration produced this
transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

           -Kissinger's schedule
                -Woodstock
           -Possible US military activity
                -President’s instructions
                -Melvin R. Laird
           -US withdrawal
           -Peace negotiations
                -David K.E. Bruce
                -Congress
                      -Jack R. Miller
                            -Proposal
                            -POWs
                -Bruce
                      -POW proposal
                            -Public relations
                                  -North Vietnamese reaction
                -Possible US position
                      -Deadline for US withdrawal
                      -POWs
                      -Possible Presidential statement on television
                      -Ceasefire
                      -Timing

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under court order from
December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al. v. James M.
Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration produced this
transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 9/08)




               -Possible US proposal
                    -US strategy
                    -Scali
               -US withdrawal
          -Lodge
               -Pope Paul VI
               -Possible meeting with the President            Conv. No. 489-5 (cont.)

     President's schedule
          -Upcoming meeting with UN Anniversary Commission members
                 -Lodge

     Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] negotiations
           -Kissinger's schedule
                 -Dobrynin
           -President’s assessment

     Vietnam
          -Negotiations
              -POWs
              -Bruce
              -Miller’s proposal
                     -POWs
                           -Release
              -Possible US proposal on POWs
                     -President’s concern
                     -Bruce
              -POW wives
              -Veterans
              -POW wives
                     -Possible Kissinger involvement
                     -Unknown woman leader

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:52 pm.

     President's schedule
          -Meeting with UN anniversary commission members
                 -Cabinet Room
                 -Gifts
                       -Pens
                       -Cufflinks
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 9/08)



                 -Andrew Wyeth

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:07 pm.

     SALT negotiations
         -Kissinger's schedule
              -Dobrynin
                                                                       Conv. No. 489-5 (cont.)
     Vietnam
          -Peace negotiations
               -Possible US proposal
                    -President’s view
               -POW wives
                    -Charles W. Colson
                    -Gen. James D. (“Don”) Hughes
               -Veterans
               -POW wives
                    -Unknown woman
                           -Kissinger’s possible meeting
                           -Previous public statements
               -POWs
                    -Possible US proposal
                    -Bruce
                    -Previous US proposal
                    -Bruce

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under court order from
December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al. v. James M.
Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration produced this
transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

                      -Congress
                           -Approval
                      -Kissinger's possible initiatives

     SALT negotiations
         -Kissinger's schedule
              -Dobrynin
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 9/08)



[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under court order from
December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al. v. James M.
Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration produced this
transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

           -Possible summit meeting                                    Conv. No. 489-5 (cont.)
                -Kissinger’s possible comments to Dobrynin
                       -US position
           -Anti-ballistic Missiles [ABMs]
                -Kissinger’s view
                       -Soviet Union’s position
                       -Possible US position

The President and Kissinger left at 12:07 pm.